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You know, Rob G. Gets mad every time we say that, right?
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Show. And let me welcome in my co host. He is Calvin Washington.
Speaker C [00:04:30]:
Happy worship Wednesday. Praise the Lord. What's up with everybody? Hopefully everybody's good on this Wednesday, man. You doing all right, Rob?
Speaker A [00:04:37]:
All good. How about you?
Speaker C [00:04:39]:
Everything's all well, man. Blessed brother ready to get in, lock the load and do what we do.
Speaker A [00:04:45]:
No doubt. We got a lot to get to for sure. And what is today? Worship Wednesday? Yep, a lot of NBA to get into. Football's dwindling down, but we will get to that. A lot of NBA stuff on the docket for us here on the odd couple. You know, you could always count on that. And we should say this. Have you ever wiped with a piece of dry toilet paper?
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Stay out of my business.
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And wondered, is this as good as it gets? It's not. Switch to the life changing wet extra large flushable dude wipes. I'm telling you, do wipes, Alex, because I am moist after that.
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No, I thought you were gonna say he's the poo poo king.
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Alex, you know I'm the poo poo king.
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But that's why you need these dude wipes.
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Because wetter just cleans better. Available at Amazon and at major retailers. That's right. Dude wipes best clean, pants down. Not bad. Whoever wrote that.
Speaker C [00:05:48]:
Yeah, that sounds like you. And by the way you put up that stand up clip from you, Rob.
Speaker A [00:05:53]:
Yes.
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All right, we got. You know what? Let's do it. I'm down. Let's do one. I'll join you on the state not together, but you like do sex. You do your set, I'll do a second. Yeah, you want to do it? Yeah, we should do it.
Speaker A [00:06:03]:
Yeah, we could do it. We'll do one. We could do a test on the radio. That's how I got started. Remember, I did a couple on the radio first and then got up on a big stage because Chris Broussard kept saying he dared me to go do it. Speaking of Chris Broussard, he gave me a shout out on the TV show. Yeah, a little no way know how. Action. That was pretty nice.
Speaker C [00:06:23]:
Saw that.
Speaker A [00:06:24]:
Very nice. Yeah, you know, first things first, we never miss. First things first.
Speaker C [00:06:28]:
We never watched it. No, you keep. You can't keep claiming that you miss everything. Okay? You can't. You miss. You don't watch me. Spectrum in the morning, you say immediately you turn, you're not watching. First things first, you ain't listening to Jason Smith. And who are you listening to? What you doing? What you watching?
Speaker A [00:06:45]:
Sorry about all that. All right.
Speaker C [00:06:46]:
All. All you watching is old reruns of. Of Perry Madison. Perry Mason.
Speaker A [00:06:51]:
Perry.
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Perry Mason.
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Okay. I do. I do have something serious to say. I'm dead serious. I shouldn't have said that.
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Okay.
Speaker A [00:06:59]:
I lost a friend today. Oh, man. And I do want to say something because he was a good friend of mine in Detroit. John Davis has passed away. He was somebody I actually Kelvin put on the radio. He's a sports fan for a long time, him and his buddy Chauncey. I gave them a show on my Fox on the sports rap radio in Detroit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was one of the best things I ever did because these Guys used to sit around at the bar. They were just sports fans. So I gave him a show called Cornbread and Chauncey. It was a proud moment for me because for John, it was like reaching something that he always wanted, you know, in his life, like, to have a platform. And he's a big Lions fan and big sports fan and talk about sports. So I. I feel great that I was able to make that happen for him in his life, but he has passed. Smart guy, great guy. And the world won't be as kind without John Davis, so I don't want to be on a downer. But, yeah, I had to ask. I had to mention the loss of John Davis.
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All right.
Speaker C [00:08:03]:
Yes. God bless the dad, man. God bless him, his memory, his family, all that good stuff.
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No doubt. All right, let's welcome any odd couple crew because we wouldn't be able to do this fine radio program without him. Rob G. Is our producer. Bud Mexican is. There you go. Alex is our engineer.
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Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
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My favorite.
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That's pretty cool.
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Okay. It really is. Monty Belanos is at the anchor desk. Yeah, we got that. I know. Monty's getting air time already. I mean, did you see that?
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Listen, Elijah know how to get the race?
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What he's doing?
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I think he's Slick Monty. In a minute. In a minute, it's gonna be like a ventriloquist act. It's gonna be me talking with just Monty.
Speaker A [00:08:42]:
I. I got it figured out. Now. All we need to do during the Jason Smith show is cut in the Monty as much as you can, and then you'll get.
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Look at that.
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I mean, why not?
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I'm just saying.
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Why not? Wash my hair today. Let's do it.
Speaker A [00:08:57]:
Alex is so disgusting. Could you put the camera on Alex? Look at that. He's so disgusting.
Speaker B [00:09:02]:
Why are you hating?
Speaker C [00:09:02]:
Why are you hating?
Speaker A [00:09:03]:
You don't hate. I spread love. I'm just saying.
Speaker C [00:09:07]:
I'm spreading love. I'm hating the hates, but I'm loving Alex now. Alex, you know. Alex, you know my theory, what I'm about to say. Monty comes prepared. You know how everybody else. Oh, it's radio. Who cares? Whatever. I dress, it. Look, hair. This is two, three weeks in a row. What she said. Oh, I actually watched him get my hair.
Speaker E [00:09:26]:
You're making it seem like I didn't do that before all of this. I always look like this, so I don't know why we're saying it's now.
Speaker C [00:09:32]:
Hold on, hold on.
Speaker A [00:09:33]:
Now we got a fight going.
Speaker C [00:09:34]:
All right. We got a show to do.
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Let's go. We got a show to go. Let's do.
Speaker C [00:09:37]:
Okay. Boxing gloves.
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Don't make me put the boxing gloves on.
Speaker A [00:09:43]:
All right. This is bad. All right. Hey, Rob.
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Gay Rob, come on. Get it together now. How you gonna read the teasers?
Speaker A [00:09:51]:
My glasses are broken. Rob G. It has been a tumultuous week for one Mr. LeBron James. And it got even worse today when the ESPN.
Speaker C [00:10:01]:
Yeah. Backster Holmes.
Speaker A [00:10:02]:
Yeah. Athletic.
Speaker D [00:10:03]:
That was ESPN.
Speaker A [00:10:04]:
ESPN.
Speaker C [00:10:05]:
Okay, ESPN.
Speaker D [00:10:05]:
Great research there.
Speaker A [00:10:06]:
No, no, no, but you told me that she. She put. You told me that she put out a statement.
Speaker D [00:10:10]:
She put out a statement. The Athletics since then.
Speaker C [00:10:12]:
But that's put out this 20, 20 minute read.
Speaker D [00:10:16]:
Yes. So it started about a week ago. LeBron James, for reasons unknown to us, you know, we talked about it on the show, decided he needed a 23rd season patch that only he would have for the rest of the season. It started mid January in Sacramento, of all places. That just seemed odd. And then yesterday, or excuse me, on Monday, it was announced that for the first time in 21 seasons, LeBron James would not be listed as an All Star Game starter in the NBA. Which is crazy that he's over two decades and the streak is finally broken. We find out yesterday that of course, he didn't get voted in by the fans, but even his peers, his teammates, his NBA brethren, didn't even have him in their top six of Western Conference players on their ballots for the NBA All Star Game. And it all came to a head earlier on Wednesday when ESPN's Baxter Holmes did a 10,000 word piece discussing the dynamics of the Jeannie Buss Buss family sale of the Lakers. All anyone cared about, though, was about three paragraphs where it explained that Jeannie Buss had grown frustrated with LeBron for a number of reasons. Number one being that she felt like she didn't like the narrative that LeBron had chose them and he was like their savior for their franchise. Number two, she didn't like the fact that LeBron James had kind of absolved himself from the Russell Westbrook trade, even though he pushed for it harder than anyone.
Speaker A [00:11:40]:
Don't we remember the video of them having a pow wow in his backyard?
Speaker D [00:11:43]:
And last but not least, she was very upset that he didn't seem more grateful that they did him a solid by drafting Bronny in the second round of the draft.
Speaker A [00:11:50]:
They drafted Bronnie on pretend on his. On his playing potential. Right.
Speaker D [00:11:54]:
So it's been. It's been a rough week for the King Yes.
Speaker A [00:11:57]:
And I got a message for the king. I'm dead serious. Retire after this season. Call it quits. Seriously, LeBron, is this on? I'm dead serious. The writing could not be more on the wall. Right? From everywhere you go. You don't want to go out. Your players have told you you're an afterthought. The fans, the Laker fans voted because guess What? Luka got 1.5 million more votes than he did when he was in Dallas last year. And guess who got 1.5 million less votes? LeBron James. So the Laker fans are out there voting and they still didn't vote for you. The players didn't vote for you, the fans didn't vote for you. The league did this phony patch that only you have. And we were really celebrating your 23 years in the league. It should be a worldwide patch. Right. Everybody should have it on. And it should have started in October when the season started. That's when your 23rd season started. You don't want to stick around too long. You can't now next year and the All Star Game is in la. What a send off. Have it one more time and it could have been in la. They were not even interested in doing that for you. No. Solid. The worst thing you could do is come back next year. And guess what? It be even worse than this year. Like, it is rock bottom. He has stayed too long. LeBron James needs to retire. The writing is on the wall in Los Angeles. Nobody wants you at the All Star game. LeBron James? Really, Kelvin? I think that says all you need to know. Fans don't want you. No. Owners want you. The players don't want you. Like, what do you need a building to fall over on you?
Speaker C [00:13:55]:
Yeah, I think, Rob, I think what makes it difficult with LeBron is all that it comes with. We'll talk a little bit later about on Steph Curry, some of the Steph Curry news and with the warriors and whatnot. But it's what comes with LeBron. It's not just singularly the talent. He's actually still probably a top 20. Me and Rob G were talking about this top 20 player. Top 25, depending on where you want to go. When you watch him and still like last night's game, he was incredible. And so the talent is there. What he could bring to a team is still there. No, no. Oh, dude, of course he's not. He's 41 years old. What I'm saying is, so it has to be something else. And it becomes what all it brings with LeBron, right? It's all the expectations. It's coaches might get fired, coaches might not, guys might get traded. It's, it's everyone else's fault but his. It's all the innuendos and the secret messaging and now it's Rich Paul. And is Rich Paul speaking for LeBron or he's not? Is he his own man saying it's all that comes with it. And so one thing going back to what Rob G. Was setting up with the, with the, with Genie Buss, I do disagree with the idea that, I mean he did come. If you remember what the Lakers were prior to him, including the years, the last few years with Kobe. They were awful. They were awful. It's the reason why they had the number two pick three years in a row. So the idea that, oh, he's our. He came. Which brought a D because of the whole clutch sports connection and they got a championship out of that. So let's not belittle that. Like I, I, I don't, I don't. That part I don't agree with. He did come.
Speaker A [00:15:20]:
The Lakers going to be fine. The Lakers would be fine. They've always sold out.
Speaker C [00:15:25]:
I don't, I, I have no recollection of that. I have no recollection of that post Dr. Buss. I don't. You, you can't tell me that. If you told me with Dr.
Speaker A [00:15:33]:
Bus, if you told me you had empty seats here, I would buy into that. There are no empty seats in Los Angeles.
Speaker C [00:15:37]:
Wait, wait, what? Well, I'm sorry, the Laker organization does not base things off just the seats.
Speaker A [00:15:42]:
I'm just talking about. No, but I'm just talking about they.
Speaker C [00:15:45]:
Have full seats when they games with. Could they end the last couple years with Kobe? Come on now.
Speaker A [00:15:51]:
But my point is that it. They weren't going anywhere whether LeBron came or not. Like they would have had had to rebuild and do something whether it was with LeBron or not. I'm just saying let's not make it like you because without AD they didn't do anything when AD wasn't here. They didn't even make the playoffs with LeBron.
Speaker C [00:16:07]:
No, that's. They didn't make the playoffs. You got AD because of LeBron. That's exactly what I just said. You got LeBron, you got AD the whole clutch sports thing and they were actually to be relevant. They won a championship. Western Commons finals. They had a run of at least relevancy on the court, not just in the seats because of the Lakers. That's what I'm saying so I going to belittle that first you know part of his tenure first four or five years. But with that being said I actually agree and I mentioned this half tongue in cheek hack seriously that I think the All Star game is a perfect time or very LeBron esque for him to announce retirement. It's in LA. You didn't vote me in. I feel some type of way the Lakers I had to opt in to they didn't offer me an extension. Rich Paul says they never asked for one who side. You know whatever you believe. But that to me seems like an opportunity for LeBron.
Speaker A [00:16:53]:
You expect it to happen.
Speaker C [00:16:55]:
Yeah, I'm saying that would not shock me.
Speaker A [00:16:57]:
I'm, I'm not I'm just saying do you expect LeBron?
Speaker C [00:16:59]:
I don't expect. I'm just saying I could see this happening where he says I'm going to suck the oxygen out of this room. The All Star Game in la like we mentioned. I'm not starting watch me announce something here where it won't it all becomes about me again. That would take you know that would it completely change. The whole entire weekend will be about that. And I could see that as a great opportunity to say you know the middle finger. If he feels slighted at all here's a good chance to put the middle proverbial middle finger up and say to the Lakers, to an NBA, to fans whoever slided me.
Speaker A [00:17:32]:
I'm not sure he's going to be there.
Speaker C [00:17:35]:
That's not, that's not crazy too that I I wouldn't put that.
Speaker A [00:17:38]:
I can't imagine him showing up.
Speaker C [00:17:40]:
That's not crazy.
Speaker A [00:17:41]:
He's not being voted as a starter for the first time in his career.
Speaker C [00:17:43]:
So what's the out though? What are you doing? I I sick. I had a family.
Speaker A [00:17:46]:
What's the he didn't want to go last year. I just he won't go well if.
Speaker C [00:17:50]:
They want but he's all I mean he's gonna, the coaches are gonna put him in. So then it becomes yeah but he could always come up.
Speaker A [00:17:56]:
Yeah, you could decline. He didn't want to do it. I just don't yeah.
Speaker C [00:17:58]:
So I I I I It's gotten weird where 10 years ago we would all thought he would had an amazing farewell tour. Kareem got it. Jordan got it. You would think LeBron would get that. Now we're at a place where I think it's just going to end pretty bad and and he's going to walk away and it very well could be this year and should be this year.
Speaker A [00:18:18]:
All right. 87799 on Fox, 877-996-6369. Should LeBron forego the foil world tour and just retire after the season? We'll continue that conversation next with you Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington. It is the odd couple where we deliver insight, not noise right here on Fox Sports Radio. Stick and stay for more great teases.
Speaker B [00:18:45]:
And liners from K.in the US of. Ram. Sam.
Speaker A [00:20:13]:
Rob G. Of course all the great talk now about Indiana is of course being that they went undefeated and they won a national championship is of course the hyperbole that they're the greatest team that ever.
Speaker D [00:20:30]:
Why are you underselling your Rob Underselling the Indiana Hoosiers?
Speaker A [00:20:34]:
ROB G. I I'm just giving you my giving it to real became the.
Speaker D [00:20:39]:
First team in over 130 years of college football to go with a 27.
Speaker A [00:20:45]:
Year old on a team 16.
Speaker D [00:20:47]:
And oh yes sir, these Hoosiers have done something that nobody this century or last century had ever done. 16, 0. They just completed the perfect season. The average margin of victory, 27.1 points per game, the fourth highest by any undefeated champion this century. So guys, when you do something like that and you make history that big, is it fair to say that Indiana has a legitimate claim that to be the greatest college football team ever?
Speaker C [00:21:21]:
No. Now did I give them the credit for being the greatest turnaround in in history?
Speaker A [00:21:26]:
Yes.
Speaker C [00:21:27]:
One of the better fun stories in college sports in the last 30, 40 years. Yes.
Speaker A [00:21:31]:
Dirty.
Speaker C [00:21:31]:
You know, would you want to Kurt Signetti one of the best coaching jobs. Yes. You can go down the line when you're talking about best college teams. I gotta hit you with the Mary Hit me with a hold up. I gotta hit you with a hold up on that. All right. Because there's multiple reasons why ROB G. I'm hitting you with a hold up. Number one, the team was designed and it's not just their fault and credit them for being the best at it. But they were hitman for hire. There's just a bunch of guys. Some came from James Madison, a bunch of other guys, you don't know them. There's no storyline as far as like all this team. There's no build up, there's no history with these guys. You don't know them. You literally only know the quarterback Mendoza and we didn't even know him prior to this season. There's no star quality to them. Also they beat a good team in Miami, a heck of a team. But they didn't beat all time team and some of these other teams that I'm going to go down here in a moment, they beat very, very good teams to win because they had beat teams that have been together. They beat teams that a history. And so to me you that adds to the element. So they're not on this level and you're talking about just top end talent. Let me remind you of the 2001 Miami Hurricanes. Don't even forget the O2 Hurricanes as well. Ken Dorsey was their quarterback. But listen to this. Running backs, Clinton Portis, Najee Davenport, Willis McGahey. My goodness, Frank Gore, that was the backfield. Tight ends, Jeremy shocking, Kelly Winslow Jr. And then you go to defensive line. The defensive players you had Jonathan Velma, DJ Williams had of course we know Sean Taylor, God bless the dead. Ed Reed, Entre roll, Philip Buchanan, Mike Ruff, all good to hall of Fame level defensive backs. So when you're talking about some of the greatest teams that they're not that they're not also the 2019 LSU team, they're not that as well. So to me. And they're not the liner Bush, Lindell White and all those guys, USC teams as well. So for me they're really good. It was a really fun story. Took over college sports, maybe even all the sports for a little bit. But no, they are not on those levels of some of the other teams that I'd mentioned. Simple, simple for me. And that's coming from a guy who loved the story. It was great, it was fun. What a turnaround. But no.
Speaker A [00:23:46]:
I'm with you. I just think that there's too much here. Transfer portal, older players, there's just a lot of stuff that makes you not feel as great about it. They did it, they did it in the current rules and everything that they have. Right. But you know this too. There's a huge advantage when you talk about players in that age. The difference between being a 19 year old and a 27 year old or 25 year old. Would you agree with that? Like that, that there's a. One guy is a man, one guy's a man and the other guy is becoming a man. And I think that you, you're able to dominate somebody like that, you know, when you play. I, I can remember playing my nephew Alvin in basketball, you know, as he was growing up and trying to beat his uncle, you know, that whole thing, you know, in the backyard. And every year or you know, at certain time in the summer I come in over there and he would try to beat me and that's when he was 14 and 15 and I was, you know. And then at some point he wanted to beat me, right, because he grew up and all that stuff. And the same thing here. These are men against boys. And that's why when you talk about, when you talk about the average age is 23, right? Which is outside of when people graduate at 21 and 22, normally four years. You're telling me to have an average be 23, that there are 27 and 28 year olds, right, to take you to that height. Everybody's not. Because there are 18 and 19 year olds in there as well, mixed in and 20. So the average to be 23 means you got some people who are 25, 26, 27. I saw a number and I think they had 47 players who were between 22 and 25. 47. That's a ton of players.
Speaker C [00:25:34]:
Oh, yeah, he did listen. And I told Rogers and that's why.
Speaker A [00:25:36]:
I just have a problem with trying to crown them as the greatest college football team ever.
Speaker C [00:26:09]:
All right, DJ Ali, Alex, it's the Odd Couple. Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington, on a worship Wednesday. Make sure you check out the brand new YouTube channel. We are simulcasting live on it now. As always, shout out to Elijah. Getting us looking good on there. Just search Odd Couple FSR on YouTube when you're there. Thumbs up icon, hit that, share it like and subscribe it. All that good stuff. We'll read some comments later on throughout the show. So go check it out right now on YouTube. Mike Sando In a moment, about five minutes or so, we'll talk to him, the athletic senior NFL writer, as we get closer and closer to the championship games on the weekend. All right. 87799 on Fox is getting really complicated with LeBron, his relationship with the Lakers, and really maybe even the league as a whole. Is it time for him to retire? Time for him to call it a career or do what he wants, stay as long as he wants? Maybe that's how you feel. 87799 on Fox. Who we got?
Speaker A [00:27:00]:
Chris in Mississippi. You're on the Odd Couple, Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Chris?
Speaker B [00:27:05]:
Hey, what's going on, fellas? How y' all doing?
Speaker A [00:27:08]:
Doing great.
Speaker C [00:27:08]:
What's up, Chris?
Speaker B [00:27:10]:
I'm doing. Have a good night. I'm, I'm like this. I mean, he been in the league 23 years and he got a stellar career. Hey, forget that farewell, too, because, hey, he should have retired five or six years ago. Hey, I'm just gonna be honest.
Speaker A [00:27:29]:
I hear You. I know. Enough is enough. Sometimes you wear a. Thanks for the call, Chris. You wear out your welcome.
Speaker B [00:27:35]:
Thank you.
Speaker C [00:27:36]:
Yeah. Five or six is a little bit longer.
Speaker A [00:27:38]:
No, but I'm saying you wear out your welcome. I don't care who you are.
Speaker C [00:27:42]:
Yeah. Yeah. I appreciate it. I think. Yeah. I think the Bronnie thing for him personally, that was the. If I can play with my son, he did that. Check that box. And I think. What else. What else is there? Say it one more time.
Speaker A [00:27:54]:
Take a picture with your son, you mean?
Speaker C [00:27:56]:
Yeah, he took a picture and he played with him. Don't play. Ain't on the same court.
Speaker A [00:28:01]:
Did they play together?
Speaker C [00:28:02]:
Okay, they did play together. I didn't say they was winning a bunch together. I said they played together.
Speaker A [00:28:06]:
Rob Andre in Massachusetts, you're on the Odd Couple, Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Dre?
Speaker B [00:28:12]:
How you doing? Thanks for taking the call. Listen, his name is King James. He sees himself as a king most definitely. So he's not going to be able to leave the NBA without a royal procession. He's going to need all of the bells and whistles. It's not going to be a Tim Duncan situation. So that. And then again, with his connections with Hollywood and Clutch Sports. Well, LeBron looks at these things, right. Cinematically.
Speaker A [00:28:36]:
Okay, Dre, I hear you. But there's an All Star game happening in Los Angeles and nobody wanted him there. What. What Fair World tour are you going to get around the rest of the country if your own peers didn't vote for you? Right. He was 6, so he didn't make that team. That the 1.5 million voted for Luca more than they did LeBron. And LeBron lost 1.5. I mean, all the scenes are there. What's going to be different next year? I don't. Seriously.
Speaker B [00:29:05]:
Next year, hopefully Rob. His temper. His temper tantrum can end, which is what he's been putting on all season because the Lakers moved off of him for Luka Doncic. So the procession tour is not going to take place with the Lakers. Maybe. Possibly. You know, what's going on in Golden State that that could open up and he can go and team up with.
Speaker A [00:29:23]:
With.
Speaker B [00:29:23]:
With Chef Curry. But it's over. The sun has set for him in Los Angeles. We know that when the AD deal, when the Lakers swindled the Mavericks to get Luka over there. And he's been upset ever since. And that's why. Which is devolved to the point where it's at. So he's going to have to find his other Destination Cleveland, Golden State. Where At Miami. And that's where he'll have the farewell tour and bells and whistles, but unfortunately, it's not going to put him.
Speaker A [00:29:47]:
I just don't.
Speaker C [00:29:48]:
I just don't see it.
Speaker A [00:29:49]:
I. I don't care where he goes. I don't think people.
Speaker C [00:29:51]:
We have more time. I would ask you, Rob. Kareem got it. You know, obviously, we all know, like, why wouldn't. Like, why did Kareem versus the NBA not want to do it for LeBron? You get what I mean?
Speaker A [00:30:02]:
If you want to say the NBA don't want to do it, I'm talking about.
Speaker C [00:30:05]:
But I mean, the NBA gave, like, everywhere that Kareem was going.
Speaker A [00:30:08]:
Not like LeBron is a polarizing figure. Kareem wasn't that same thing. No, not like LeBron. Are you kidding?
Speaker C [00:30:16]:
Not like LeBron. I agree. The mass media end of it.
Speaker A [00:30:19]:
But Kareem. Kareem was a. Kareem was outspoken in a different kind of guy like that. But I don't think that he was hated as much as LeBron. There are people who just don't like LeBron.
Speaker C [00:30:31]:
Oh, that's facts. I don't.
Speaker A [00:30:33]:
And that's all I'm saying is, like, he's polarizing. So it ain't as easy to have it. There are some places if LeBron had a thing they might boo him at at the arena. I'm dead serious.
Speaker C [00:30:44]:
I don't disagree.
Speaker A [00:30:44]:
There could be places that he goes and they would boo the hell out of him. I don't think he wants to do that.
Speaker C [00:30:50]:
Yep. All right. Appreciate it. Mike Sando on the way, we'll talk some NFL as we get closer to championship weekend. Right now, Monty Milanos is going to get us updated. Hey, Monty.
Speaker A [00:30:58]:
Hey, guys. What's up, Monty? My glasses broke.
Speaker E [00:31:02]:
Your glasses broke?
Speaker C [00:31:03]:
Yeah, he broke it. Would you sit on him, Rob?
Speaker A [00:31:05]:
I was trying to. I had a glizzy in my mouth. I was taking a glizzy out and my glasses.
Speaker C [00:31:09]:
Oh, boy. Oh, so what?
Speaker E [00:31:11]:
You're missing a leg. You can still wear them. We could. We could stick the other leg and you can hold it more properly. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A [00:31:19]:
I need a model.
Speaker E [00:31:20]:
That's what I'm saying. There we go.
Speaker A [00:31:21]:
All right, I know we got sandal.
Speaker E [00:31:23]:
All right, we'll be quick here, but news out of the NFL. Defensive coordinator Brian Flores has signed a contract extension with the Vikings. If he does not receive a head coaching job, then he's going to be back as a team's defensive he's not.
Speaker A [00:31:35]:
Getting a head coaching job. He's suing the league. Well, I'm just saying.
Speaker E [00:31:39]:
No, you're right, you're right.
Speaker C [00:31:41]:
So he'll never get real. Question, Rob. You think so? He'll never get one.
Speaker A [00:31:44]:
I'm just.
Speaker C [00:31:45]:
So he's, he's at his ceiling for the next. He's like 42. So he's at his ceiling for the next 20, 25 years.
Speaker A [00:31:50]:
All I'm asking you is he has a current suit going on. I don't think he'll get hired now.
Speaker C [00:31:56]:
No, I'm with you. That's just weird. Like for him to know that then I'm at my ceiling. It's kind of crazy.
Speaker A [00:32:01]:
What deal is you're sign. Why are you signing this deal if you really think you could get a, a, a contract? You know what I mean? You wouldn't have to sign this deal. Let me go through the process. If I get a job, find if I'll come back.
Speaker C [00:32:14]:
Have they called you at all for a job, Rob? Cuz you know, they ain't really calling brothers right now for the Rooney rule. They might call you.
Speaker A [00:32:19]:
All right.
Speaker E [00:32:19]:
Well, the Chiefs did agree to terms with Eric B. Enemy to bring him back as their offensive coordinator. The Steelers completed an interview today with former Cowboys head coach Mike McCarthy for their head coaching vacancy. In baseball, the Yankees and Cody Bellinger agreed to terms on a five year deal worth 162 million right now in the NBA. The Cavaliers on top of the Hornets 28 to 8 with less than five minutes to go in the first quarter. Charlotte has made three shots so far when it comes to men's college hoops. It's still late in the first half, but number 11 Illinois is leading Maryland 27 to 26. Also late in the first half, where number 22 North Carolina is up on Notre Dame 24 to 17. We'll check in the NHL. The Maple Leaves are up on the Red Wings 1 0. Also late in the first period. Back to you guys.
Speaker A [00:33:05]:
All right, and real quick, Adam Shepard just reported that he signed a contract extension with the, with the Vikings. There's no head coaching job like, like that. That what he's now no longer Kel, but he's, he's coming back to the Vikings.
Speaker C [00:33:20]:
Yeah, I'm just saying that's, it's crazy to know that for the next 20 years of his career he might have a ceiling. You know what I mean? Like, this is as far as I'll get. All right, appreciate it, Monty. Bye.
Speaker A [00:33:28]:
I don't know Go ahead and sue Spectrum and see what they do to you. See if you get a job.
Speaker C [00:33:32]:
Listen, I'm with you. We talked about the same thing with Colin Kaepernick. You, you, you, you got the settlement and then you're like, all right, so come back and pick me. Pick. And they're like, I'm like, dude, what team is going to pick you now? You done sued and you had to settle with the league, so I'm with you. I get that. Maybe we can ask Mike that as well. Ale is here to help you keep your New Year's resolutions on track. With up to 12 hours of body pain relief per dose, Aleve keeps you moving with long lasting body pain relief so you can achieve your goals. Use as directed for minor aches and pains. Mike Sandal. Now, our guest here, athletic senior NFL writer Sando. NFL on X there.
Speaker A [00:34:04]:
And I'm gonna say, mike, how are you?
Speaker B [00:34:06]:
Good, how are you?
Speaker A [00:34:07]:
I'm just gonna say straight up, the league doesn't hire black coaches to begin with, so now they're going to hire a black coach that's suing the league. I just. Was he ever getting a job? Mike, did you think that Brian Flores was going to get a head coach and job while he has a live, active suit against the league?
Speaker B [00:34:23]:
No, I thought it would be unlikely. I think also the way that, the way that it went in, in Miami, you know, he had to explain away some of that stuff. I mean, he really got, in fact, Ryan Fitzpatrick, who's pretty prominent on Amazon, you know, kind of was like, hey, it was tough. He was a different, became a different guy. A lot of people had that, that optic on him when he was there that he, you know, he's a great guy. And then when he got power, he was, you know, not as good and so wouldn't be the first guy to do that. But the handling of the quarterback there, all of that stuff. I think the reason why a deal gets done with Minnesota is they got to protect their interests, too. They can't be looking for a coordinator in a month. Right?
Speaker A [00:35:00]:
No, no, I get that. Yeah, I get there. And Mike for sure. But if he really thought he had a shot at a job, I'd be like, well, you have to wait. I might get a head coaching job. And he knows he's not getting one. That's all. That's my.
Speaker B [00:35:13]:
Well, but he can still get one. I mean, look, look, this is, this gives him a fallback where he doesn't have to move. He probably likes it there. And he can still look for a coaching job. I think that he was probably, you know, there's probably some other issues in terms of whatever the money was or all of that, you know, that needed to be resolved. And those things oftentimes don't get resolved until there's some pressure.
Speaker A [00:35:37]:
All right, here's my quickest question, and then we'll move on. 10 openings. Will any black coaches be hired?
Speaker B [00:35:44]:
That's a great question. I really don't know.
Speaker A [00:35:46]:
I don't even. With the interview process, I don't even. I don't even hear any black names. I don't know who. All the candidates. I don't know everybody. I don't. And. And even Eric B. Enemy tried to get a job for 10 years. He went back to the Kansas City Chiefs to do the same job. What. What jobs are there? I just don't see him.
Speaker B [00:36:03]:
Yeah. If you had. Off top of my head, if you had to bet, you'd probably bet there may not be. Right. I mean, I'm trying to think, who's.
Speaker A [00:36:12]:
Nobody. Nobody.
Speaker C [00:36:14]:
Which is crazy.
Speaker B [00:36:15]:
You look at the candidate list for each team. Obviously they're bringing some guys in, but you're like, okay, are they just complying with rules?
Speaker C [00:36:20]:
Yes. Well, what. The rules. I mean, at this given point as we sit here today, there's only three black coaches. So the Rudy rule really worked. Like, you know what I mean, 20 years of it. And.
Speaker A [00:36:29]:
And John Harbaugh in New York. I don't. Did they interview anybody else? I don't.
Speaker C [00:36:35]:
That's a great question.
Speaker A [00:36:36]:
If you. Minority candidate, Mike.
Speaker B [00:36:39]:
Well, they have to. Yes, they. They had to. They have to. You have to. To be able to comply with the. With the rules.
Speaker A [00:36:44]:
So.
Speaker B [00:36:44]:
But, you know, when they, when they.
Speaker A [00:36:46]:
All right.
Speaker B [00:36:46]:
When they hired him, the GM said, yeah, we knew from the beginning, you know, that this was the guy.
Speaker C [00:36:51]:
We all knew Mike. We all knew Mike. They're flying and wine and died of first class private jet. All right, Mike, we can. We can switch gears here, talk about this game with the. For the Broncos, obviously devastating. You're excited you're going to the AFC championship, but then you lose your quarterback in Bo Nicks. What's the game plan now? How do you pivot and try to get to a Super Bowl? We've seen it.
Speaker A [00:37:12]:
Can you.
Speaker C [00:37:12]:
Can you go Nick Foles? Can you go Tom Brady his first year at it?
Speaker B [00:37:16]:
Yeah, well, you. Probably to me their best chances. I think he can win a game. I don't think you're winning two with the backup quarterback. Certainly you're going to get on the other side. You know, if you get Seattle's defense, I think that would be real problematic for them. I think it might be with Bonix anyway, but it makes it interesting like because you, you do have a coach and Sean Payton who's got a good defense, you know, on his team and defense can win.
Speaker C [00:37:42]:
Yeah, right.
Speaker B [00:37:42]:
And he, and when he, you know, when he lost Drew Brees, they still won some games in New Orleans, but it was like, it was because of the defense, like the offense, you know, the quarterbacks had some winning records. Like I think Jameis Winston might have even had like a really good record. But it was a lot of defensive winning going on. So you, you know that that's got to be a big part of what they're thinking the same. At the same time. Derek Stidham is a veteran. You know, I think that he, I know people that have been, you know, with him, places he's, he's going to come in and project confidence and command and all that. But you know, I think you don't, I think you really don't know what you're getting in the game. And for two games in a row, you know, I, I really have my questions.
Speaker A [00:38:20]:
Mike, help me with C.J. stroud of turnover. Ten turnovers in six quarters in two playoff games is mind boggling. If I'm the Texans with a, with a Super bowl type defense, I really gotta figure out is this going, is he going to bounce back or do I need to look for another option here?
Speaker B [00:38:41]:
Yeah, it's pretty bad. I mean, talk about a guy who looks so good as, you know, as a rookie and they still have won and they've won playoff games every year. But I'm kind of with you here to where, hey, if you're going to. It's kind of like you tolerate some of these games in the playoffs if the ceiling's really high the rest of the time. Right. We've seen that with any number of quarterbacks over the years. Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson, John Elway early in his career. Right. I mean, even Peyton Manning the first six, seven years he didn't win anything in the playoffs, but the rest of the time he was like mvp, you know, so you kind of like, okay, you know, maybe he'll get over it at some point, but when you're just sort of, you know, decent in the regular season and then completely implode, I think, you know, he's probably one more postseason implosion away from, you know, that being super costly for him. If I'm them, I certainly don't rush into a huge contract.
Speaker A [00:39:32]:
Oh, I can't see him getting a contract. Not this all season.
Speaker B [00:39:35]:
Yeah. The first time he's eligible for one, I believe.
Speaker A [00:39:38]:
Right.
Speaker C [00:39:39]:
What's the latest with Stefan Diggs? It, you know, the, the court dates and the, the alleged strangulation situation. Is he. He's going to be able to play and it will say they win and go to the Super Bowl? Like, what's, what's the latest with that?
Speaker B [00:39:53]:
Well, that's pretty interesting. So the number one interesting thing to me on that was that Mike Rabel, most of the time when people bring this sort of a thing up, the coach is like kind of timid or he's kind of like, hey, you know, we're just gathering information. No comment. Vrabel's like, we got his back. Wasn't that amazing? It was just like a player. Like, Vrabel is a former player. It just really struck me like they just said he's our guy, you know, and almost, you know, in a much more supportive way.
Speaker A [00:40:23]:
Is this the Patriots that had Aaron Hernandez too? They had his back too.
Speaker B [00:40:28]:
Yeah, well, I'm just, I'm just. I don't know that this is on the same level.
Speaker A [00:40:32]:
I'm not saying that, but they had his back too. I'm just saying like, yeah, you got to be.
Speaker B [00:40:36]:
You mean publicly they said we got him?
Speaker C [00:40:38]:
Yes.
Speaker A [00:40:39]:
Yeah. I mean, there were people who said that he was on the do not draft list. I know, I saw Tony. Don't you say that. And the Patriots didn't feel that way.
Speaker B [00:40:48]:
They were like, oh, a lot of teams draft guys. I'm talking about when there's something pending. Yeah, no, no, no.
Speaker C [00:40:53]:
I think that.
Speaker A [00:40:54]:
Yeah, I just, I get it. You're trying to be supportive, but you got to be careful whenever there's, you know, legal matters involved. It's nice to say that, but you also have to say, hey, you know, like we this out of our control. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker C [00:41:09]:
Be careful.
Speaker B [00:41:10]:
I don't know what the league does this stuff on their own timetable. So I don't know. You know, they could suspend them tomorrow or not and wait till after the season.
Speaker A [00:41:17]:
Robert Sala is getting another chance. Were you surprised by that?
Speaker B [00:41:21]:
Not really. I think that, you know, there was some more talk in this cycle about giving second chances to people. I think they've run the well dry on all these 15 year old offensive coordinators. You know, there's just. You get to a point where there's just not a pool of those guys. Very many. So. And then we've seen, you know, I think some of those, some of those second chance guys have. Have, you know, done. Okay. So I think doesn't surprise me at all. I think, you know, you take into account the situation, I think the jets are a really hard place for anyone to win. We've seen quarterbacks come out of those New York markets and do well elsewhere when they were completely running into the ground when they were in that market. So, you know, Salah is. Probably has a better chance in Tennessee than the jets, even though Titans. Well, yes, even though the Titans are not a good organization. So he's still got a lot of challenges there, but I think he's going to be in a totally different setting for him where I think he'll probably have some more time.
Speaker C [00:42:20]:
You know, Callahan had, I'm sorry, real quick, last one for me. Real quick. Just Ram Seahawks, big one coming up. Rams went close early in November. And then of course, the Seahawks squeak.
Speaker A [00:42:32]:
Out one a few weeks ago, one the Rams choked. They were up by 16 in the fourth quarter.
Speaker C [00:42:37]:
What do you, what do you make of this one now?
Speaker B [00:42:40]:
I think it's a real tough spot for the Rams. I do. I think that, you know, they have really been on a run of. I think they've played in Atlanta, they've played in Charlotte, they've played in, you know, Chicago. All these long road trips and Seattle sitting there, hasn't made any Harley trips and, and, you know, had the bye week. I think that it sets up as a. In Seattle's favor with the home crowd and just a Ram team that I would think could run out of gas in the second half.
Speaker C [00:43:15]:
All right, there you have it. That's why they play the games. We'll see. Mike, appreciate it.
Speaker A [00:43:18]:
Appreciate you.
Speaker B [00:43:20]:
Thank you.
Speaker C [00:43:20]:
Appreciate it.
Speaker B [00:43:21]:
Okay.
Speaker C [00:43:22]:
All right, Rob. We got Shekel City on the way, tiger. And your tire rack play of the day as well. We'll get to all that in just a moment. It's the Odd Couple, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker A [00:44:01]:
Can I tell you how I describe this championship? They beat the system. They beat the system. They didn't beat Miami. They beat the system. This ain't no Disney movie. This movie's rated Triple X. Oh, boy. One you don't want to take the kids to see. I'm telling you, there's nothing good, pure, wholesome about Indiana winning the national championship. Are you kidding me? They're selling this like we reinvented the wheel. We made a better mousetrap that could catch two mice at the same time. That's what they're trying to sell. College football America, it's a farce. They paid for a national championship. And that's why I say they beat the system. Other schools. Now go look at your alumni. Go find your Mark Cuban. Check right with the checkbook. You can do this too. The average age, 23 years old. You go, oh, that's not that old. Well, most people graduate college 21 or 22. Right? Or that.
Speaker C [00:45:14]:
Now you're making that most people.
Speaker A [00:45:17]:
And then think about this. The Green Bay packers. Average age of their players, 25. 5. Indiana 23. Please do not make this like you just saw something that's inconceivable. And you can't believe that this happened in your lifetime. Because the basketball school Indiana, which hadn't been relevant since Bobby Knight was kicking chairs and pimp slapping students around, roamed the sidelines. This is not that Indiana. There's nothing special here. This could have happened at any school willing to put up $20 million for a coaching staff, $2 million for a quarterback. And guess what?
Speaker C [00:46:04]:
What?
Speaker A [00:46:05]:
Top 10 in spending on the players and going to the transfer portal. And any 27 year old with two kids and a wife will gladly or gladly put them on the roster. That's how ugly this is. They won a championship. They're not Cinderella. This chick is heavy with pimples and I'm not going to embrace it.
Speaker C [00:46:30]:
Look at you. Fat shaming on a Tuesday anything Tuesday. Fat Tuesday. Let me get to you right now, number one, I thought you were about to say the right thing when you said ain't nothing good or pure about. And I was like, look at him starting off right then you said indiana. No, it's college football. Nothing pure or about it in good in the first place. So they got into a nasty, murky system, an ugly game, and they played it better than anybody. Kurt Signetti came into the game, told him I was about to win. Matter of fact, you know what he did? He told Rob Parker, he said, google me. He told you to Google him? And what did he do? Turned right around and went 11 and 2 last year. Ended up number 8 and then 16 0. Rob 160 smoked everybody. Ohio State. You can get this smoke twice with as Rob G just minute second most losing team in FBS history. So the idea that Miami, Michigan, Ohio State, usc, Alabama, all these big teams and not Alabama, I'll take them out because they went all the time. But some of these schools who've won one or haven't won in 20 something years, like a Miami, Texas. I don't even know the last time Texas won. And they got. They got a Manning, they got a Vince Young, right? That was lit. That was one of the greatest games ever. My point is, Texas, all these amenities, new. New buildings, new structure for the players. They got Arch Manning, all that money. They ain't did it. In fact, they didn't look that great this year.
Speaker A [00:47:53]:
Yeah, you're right. They don't have any 27 year olds on the team. You're right.
Speaker C [00:47:56]:
Right. They got 22.8 year olds. And so the idea that he turned it around so fast, he did it his way, brought in James Madison kids. He didn't bring in Georgia, he didn't bring in Clemson, Ohio State, James Madison kids. And they went in there and got it done. Come on, Rob, you can't hate on that. That's amazing. Now, what he opened up was an opportunity, as you just mentioned, for everybody to do that. And it might have donors who typically wouldn't think of a Purdue, who typically might not think of a Michigan State, who might not think of, you know, some of these other schools that aren't the biggest. Say, you know what, why not us, NC State, we got some people with some money. Why not us? I just saw what he did in Indiana, of all places, in two years. So that's what's about to make this interesting. We might mess around and have more parody than we've had in the last 20 to 30 years, where it was just Alabama, Georgia, Our couple. Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington on a worship Wednesday. Big thank you to, of course, Mike Sando, who just joined us moments ago. Make sure you check out the podcast. Rob G. Will have that up in a little bit if you didn't get a chance to see it.
Speaker A [00:50:05]:
He sounds so. He wasn't sure about all that smoke about the coaches out the box.
Speaker C [00:50:09]:
Yeah, yeah. I think he was kind of like, oh, I wasn't ready for all that. But no, hey, seriously, bro, that's a real conversation. Like, what was the point of the rule? What was the point of having this supposed to be this pivotal change? And here we are. Things look the exact same. If not, you could argue, maybe even worse.
Speaker A [00:50:24]:
When the Lions hire Steve Mariucci, no black coaches would even go to Detroit. Do you remember that? Yeah, they knew that they. They knew that Mariucci was hired already and they. And none of them would do the dog and pony show so that the Lions could do that. I remember that they got fined.
Speaker C [00:50:39]:
And this is what Brian Flores was talking about.
Speaker A [00:50:41]:
That's exactly. Remember that he was going to go and Bill Belichick called him by mistake and said, congratulations on the job. What job? I mean, that's like. What?
Speaker C [00:50:51]:
Yeah, man. So that's.
Speaker A [00:50:52]:
So he got the job. Cause I'm going there tomorrow to interview for the job. Is that it?
Speaker C [00:50:56]:
Dude, Exactly. Here we are. Rooney ruled this. Rooney rule that. You got three black coaches who's covered all this. He doesn't even know a name. A single name. That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker A [00:51:07]:
He covers the NFL. He couldn't even. I said, give me a name. He couldn't give you one.
Speaker C [00:51:11]:
Yeah, and we talked about it. The pipeline is the issue. You finding them, getting them early, getting them in the coordinator position, these quarterback coach positions, these, you know, these linebacker coaches where they can move up and then get opportunities. But it's so far, a few that. And yeah, we could go on and on and on about this, but I'm glad I'm not. But I'm seriously glad. When we had the conversation, Rob. All right, let's get into it now. It's time for Shekel City.
Speaker A [00:51:36]:
Welcome to Shackle City for Rob Parker's daily picks against the splat. Did I do that?
Speaker C [00:51:46]:
That.
Speaker A [00:51:47]:
I knew that did. I knew that. Well, I was 1 and 2.
Speaker C [00:51:52]:
1 and 2. Yeah. It was giving 1 and 2 vibes.
Speaker A [00:51:56]:
I did pull out 26 and 14 on I. Here we go. Tonight. I got Boston minus ten and a half. Pacers got the N. Brooklyn Nets plus 11 and a half. I'm Knicks win, but the Nets covered at 11 and a half. And I got the Sacramento Kings plus five and a half, taking on the Raptors in NBA Siberia. So Kings plus five and a half. Brooklyn plus eleven and a half. And the Celtics minus ten and a half. And remember, Kelvin, I'm not telling you who to bet on. I'm telling you who I bet on.
Speaker C [00:52:32]:
Remember the Kings used to be a fun place to watch a game. Not necessarily be there, but like their teens and every on tv. The cow bells and Chris Weber, Vlad and Mikey. Man, boy, have things changed. My goodness. All right, it's now time for your Tirek play of the day.
Speaker A [00:52:46]:
Watch Luca finds Luca. Back to hot diving is LeBron. Throw it down. Boy, LeBron can still make that quick dive down the middle. Off the ball.
Speaker C [00:53:01]:
Spectrum Sportsnet there on the call. That's your tire rack play of the day. It's brought to you by tire rack. And of course, for over 40 years, Tire Rack's been Helping customers find the right tires for how, for what and for where they drive ship fast and free. Backed by free road hazard protection with convenient installation options like mobile tire installation, tire rack.com the way tire buying should be. Rob, I wonder. Let me ask you this. You know, back to the conversation we're having. Do you think somebody now. And I hate to call them out in this sense because. But he's. If Mike Tomlin ends up taking the year off doing TV or just makes himself more available to press and whatnot, you think he's the type of person who would bring that up and, and, and kind of makes. Make a fuss if you will make some noise about that? Or is it. I mean, I don't want to. Like I said, I'm not putting it on him. I'm just asking more or less because he would be one of the prominent persons. Like he had a job for 19.
Speaker A [00:53:55]:
Years, but he has no coach entry. He, he hired one black offensive and defensive coordinator and his 8. 19 years. I, I doubt he'd be that guy.
Speaker C [00:54:05]:
Yeah. It's just interesting wondering like where the fuss comes from. You get what I mean? Because Brian Flores is almost. Can't say anything now because he's got the lawsuit. But, but as we discussed on paper, he'd be the perfect guy. Just, you know, as far as I.
Speaker A [00:54:20]:
Get what you're saying. Right. But teams.
Speaker C [00:54:23]:
Yeah. It's just, it's interesting. But I, it's kind of disheartening also again to be here 20 years later having a whole purpose of the rule and there's been no advancement, no real change of it. And that's why I said I'm glad you, you brought that up. You asked. Because there's not even names circulating around that you're like, oh, there's interest here, there's interest there.
Speaker A [00:54:41]:
Nobody sad. It really is sad that we can't. The, the union's okay with it. You don't hear anything from the Black Coaches association. You know, whatever. An association. It's disappointing. It really is. That they'll have 10 openings. You know how big. That doesn't happen often.
Speaker C [00:54:59]:
That's the third of the league. Yes, third of the league. And, and here we are, like we said, couldn't even really come up with any candidates. All right, well, you mentioned the spread. You had the Knicks and the, the Nets going on. You got the Knicks, I mean the Nets covering. But what's going on in New York? How can you solve it? We'll tell you how to solve it.
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What's it like working with Rob? Rob in his mind is like Chris Rock mixed with Richard Pryor. So I'm running out of fake laughs. Ha ha. Rob. Rob is very passionate.
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NFL defensive coordinator Brian Flores has signed a contract extension with the Vikings if he does not receive a head coaching job this cycle, he will be back as a team's defensive coordinator. The Bills are going to continue their head coach search tomorrow as former Giants coach Brian Dabel is set to have his interview. The Steelers completed an interview with former Cowboys head coach Mike McCarthy for their head coach vacancy. The Chiefs have agreed to terms with Eric Biennami to bring him back as their offensive coordinator. 49ers GM John lynch says wide receiver Brandon Aiyuk has played his last snap for the and won't be back in 2026. In the NBA, the Cavaliers lead the Hornets 47 to 25 halfway through the second quarter. Late in the first quarter, the Celtics are up on the Pacers 2018 Knicks over the Nets 2417 Pistons are going to be without Kate Cunningham for tonight's game against the Pelicans because of illness. I'm on CIU Alanos.
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Speaker D [01:03:36]:
Oh, a matchup with the Nets could not have been more needed than it is tonight.
Speaker A [01:03:40]:
Like perfect prescription from the doctor, right?
Speaker D [01:03:43]:
Absolutely. Okay, so they started out 23 and nine and they won the NBA Cup. They were thriving. Go New York, go New York, go. Everybody's feeling good.
Speaker A [01:03:54]:
That's a Great thing.
Speaker D [01:03:55]:
We're going back to the NBA Finals for the first time in a millennia. Since then, though, the wheels have completely fallen off. They've gone two and nine during that stretch. Their offense has cratered to the bottom 10. Their defense has been middle of the road at best throughout the whole season. So it's gone from middle of the road to below average. It got so bad that when they were down by 30 at home on Monday and Martin Luther King Day against Dallas, the home crowd booed him out of the gym. And as a result, Jalen Brunson, according to multiple reports, scheduled a players only meeting after the game and said, look, guys, basically this is not a technical issue. This is not an X's and O's issue. This is an us issue. Lock in. Do your effing job.
Speaker A [01:04:41]:
All I want to remind you, Kelvin is six months ago, in an odd.
Speaker C [01:04:46]:
Couple, proof of performance.
Speaker A [01:04:48]:
I said that the Knicks wanted Larry Brown and ended up with Charlie Brown when they hired Mike Brown. And now this is a Mike Brown problem. Because you're not getting effort. You know what I mean? They're not playing for you. That's scary. It's one thing you're not getting execution, right? When people don't play for you and don't play defense and roll up their sleeves, that's a, that's a statement against the coach. That. That's what that is. And I got. I'm still going to go back to one thing. I think the Knicks have gone south following Thumbgate. There's no other way of looking at it. But since Thumbgate happened, that has derailed the Knicks. They've been awful since Josh Hart did not have a heart and Jalen Brunson were connected by a thumb. Is that, does that make sense?
Speaker C [01:05:53]:
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker A [01:05:56]:
Serious, like, like what did. Rob G. Just gave me the numbers they got off the box. Oh my God, Mike Brown. What a difference. Oh, this is going to be great. Rob G didn't even mention that Cat went from his best season last year to having his worst season since his rookie year. Like he even said, I don't even know how I fit in here.
Speaker C [01:06:17]:
100.
Speaker A [01:06:17]:
Dude, this is bad. But I'm saying since that incident and them winning the in season tournament at the cup, whatever you want to call it, it's been down, it's been downhill.
Speaker C [01:06:28]:
I already hear it right now. What if I told you that one appendage could change it all? I could totally hear the 30 for 30 on this.
Speaker A [01:06:39]:
Elijah. Make sure you get that in the headline. Okay, that's all Hru. Thumb gate.
Speaker C [01:06:44]:
Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Don't get. Look. So I'm gonna circle back. Thumbgate. Give me a minute on that. Give me a minute on that. I'm sorry. Here. The thing about this was. Makes it interesting. You said proof of, you know, proof of performance. You're so. You're so ridiculous. Going back to talking about one in Larry Brown got Charlie Brown. This was the concern for me with the whole tips, like. Tip. I ain't dying on the tips here. Like, he's Phil Jackson. But one thing you ain't questioned about him is how hard they're going to play. Almost to the point of too hard, because, you know, he's been. That reputation of running guys down, playing hard, playing good defense and competing, that's one thing. If he ever has a calling card, that would have been that Mike Brown, for all the years we've been knowing him as a coach, assistant coach, head coach, I still don't know his calling card. You get what I mean? I don't know, like, whether you love Mike d' Antoni or not. You knew what he would be like if I said, hey, they're hiring Mike, Dan, Tony.
Speaker A [01:07:34]:
Okay, I would say that you're not winning a championship.
Speaker C [01:07:39]:
That's fine. But I would say then you know what he's gonna get. You're gonna get an MVP level out of Harden. Right? But you got that Mike Brown. I. I don't. I don't know what he does. I don't know his strength. And so to me, now, they're in a place where they don't know what they are. They've had to have multiple conversations about effort. When you got to have multiple. With veterans, not young guys who don't know any better. Veterans. That is concerning, without a doubt. And another thing, I'm looking at Carl Anthony Towns, Carl Lewis, George Carlin, anybody I'm trading, I'm calling. I'm writing down the phone with the Bucks, and I'm saying, hey, I know Giannis doesn't want to be traded, blah, blah, blah. I heard that the only team he had really interest winning over the summer was. Was us. What do we got to do?
Speaker A [01:08:24]:
But wait a minute. How did call Anthony Town go from what he was last year, a force to this?
Speaker C [01:08:29]:
That's. And that's. And you mentioned. You mentioned. What I literally have written down here was him struggling. He just played very few minutes. His most recent game, his few, most. I think fewest attempts. He looks lost.
Speaker A [01:08:41]:
Yeah, but that's what I'M saying Mike Brown has to be part of the.
Speaker C [01:08:44]:
Blame here, year I or what a lot of the blame because. And he got put in a situation where, what was it? Get to the championship finals or bust, period. They can get back to the Eastern Conference finals. You could argue with, with Tibs. He had been in a row playoffs few seasons in a row, moving.
Speaker A [01:09:00]:
You can't accept what happened last year. I, I, I did. That's where we'll, well, we just, we disagree. We disagree because the change. I don't have a problem with a change. I have a problem with bringing in a guy who's failed like over and over and over. Like he doesn't have any hardware on his own.
Speaker C [01:09:16]:
And that's why I said they brought in a guy that I don't have an identifying thing about him.
Speaker A [01:09:20]:
But Tibbs never won either. Tibs Tibbs hasn't won. And if you're the Knicks, you got to really be honest about yourself and whether or not Mike Brown is really the right coach. And I know that sounds crazy, but if not, this is like the Buffalo Bills, okay? You got a free path basically to the Eastern Conference finals. Pistons are there. They've won.
Speaker C [01:09:42]:
It should be a rematch of y' all playoffs.
Speaker A [01:09:44]:
The pistons have won two playoff games in 15 years. Okay? So I'm even as well as they've played. They don't have, they had, they don't have the, the mileage. They haven't played in big games like that. They couldn't even win a game last year at home. I'm not dismissing them, but I'm just saying.
Speaker C [01:10:02]:
But they should meet in the Eastern Conference. No, I'm with you on that.
Speaker A [01:10:04]:
I'm just saying that the Knicks should be the favorite in the Eastern Conference. They should because of their veteran players and the idea that they went to the Eastern Conference finals two years in a row. Remember they went up against Indiana and lost.
Speaker C [01:10:17]:
Yeah.
Speaker A [01:10:18]:
And then they went last year with Boston.
Speaker C [01:10:19]:
Right.
Speaker A [01:10:20]:
Or did they lose in the second round?
Speaker C [01:10:22]:
Second round, second round. Then the Eastern Conference.
Speaker A [01:10:25]:
Right. The second. But, but Indiana wind up going because they beat them in seven games. You know what I mean? They lost game seven at home. My point is no Indiana, no Boston. The Bucks are a mess. Cleveland's taking a step back. So if you're the Knicks, what are you doing? This can't be a year where, oh, man, things didn't work out. We need another year to figure it out with Mike Brown where, where the Knicks are. You got. This has to turn around immediately for me to Feel good of Mike Brown continuing as coach here. Yeah. Cuz something. It does not add up.
Speaker C [01:11:02]:
It's a waste of. It's a waste of a year where it's wide open. The only.
Speaker A [01:11:05]:
That's why Sean McDermott got fired. Right? I mean that, that's. They looked at it as a missed.
Speaker C [01:11:09]:
Opportunity and they had. They talked about the playoff while they kept running into. So I'm lit. I am on the phone day in, day out figuring out a package. Even if it has to be a three team deal. You call a team, I'm making it up in Atlanta or somebody or something. You find a team because maybe you.
Speaker A [01:11:25]:
You don't want y. I'm firing Mike Brown before I get rid of Cat. So you want to get rid of Cat instead of Mike Brown?
Speaker C [01:11:33]:
Well, specifically for Giannis. Yes. Getting rid of Cat just for the sake of it. No. Okay, give me honest. That is my goal. That changes everything. You might not even have to fire Mike Brown. If I can get Giannis, pair him up with Jalen Brunson and you know, a couple other pieces that they have now, I can look at the Pistons and like I already felt like we could compete with you now. I really feel like that if you, if you go get Giannis, I'm getting.
Speaker A [01:11:55]:
Why shouldn't they feel they compete with the Pistons already?
Speaker C [01:11:58]:
Oh, oh, no, they. No, no, no. They. They would. They don't have the manpower. They don't have the fight. The Pistons just demolish them. They're a step down from last year. Right. If this were the exact same team as last year, I would be like, I'm with you. Like okay, yeah, right there. I got.
Speaker A [01:12:11]:
You don't have a lot of playoff experience and they haven't won a lot of games and that's all. All I'm saying is the Knicks still should be the favorite in the East. They should. They're playing other underneath terribly. I get what you should be, but they started 239 and they won the. The cup. The Pistons didn't win the cup of the half season tournament or whatever.
Speaker C [01:12:31]:
If you don't ever in your life hush up about some cups. No, you don't even. You always making fun of Darvin Hand for winning the cup. Now the cup matters to you.
Speaker A [01:12:37]:
No, but. But my point is that they got off to a good start. This is, this is of late the last 11. What has happened here is what I'm saying to you.
Speaker C [01:12:46]:
It'd be different if all year they are two and eight in their last 10. They've lost four straight. They're getting blown out by teams. They are looking awful right now. Cat doesn't know what he's doing. The defense is 27th. I believe it is this since this run of the the cup. Their offense isn't even looking good right now. They don't know what they're doing. They have to have routine meetings. I'm getting Giannis. Giannis, we just got booed last night. You got booed the other night. Come on, let's be booze together. Come on over here. I'll give up with a Cat. It's been a good run. You gotta go third team. Deal. If I need to. Because I think the Bucks will want to just get a bunch of picks and start over. Would be there. That's what I would do if I'm the Bucks because I don't think Carthage Towns makes. You're not better with him than you were with Giannis. I'd rather get a bunch of picks. So 13. Deal. Send Yan, send Carlton Towns to the other 13 bucks start over. Other team feels like they're better because they got Cat and the Knicks have Giannis where he's wanted to be. That's the only report. They just couldn't find the deal over the off season. Make that happen. And now you're right back and now you're feeling like, hey, we can compete obviously in the east and you maybe you feel like you can do something in NBA Finals. I'm making a deal. Giannis don't want to say it, Rob. He don't want to be the bad guy and be like get me out of Milwaukee. He just doesn't want to do that. So if I'm the Knicks, we'll be the bad guys. We'll offer such a great deal that the Milwaukee couldn't refuse it. We'll be the godfather, if you will and come on over here and help us because they're just going downhill. I think guys are tapping out and they're not buying the message of Mike Brown.
Speaker A [01:14:16]:
I think they have the talent. It's just not being utilized. They have the talent. They were up two.
Speaker C [01:14:21]:
Oh.
Speaker A [01:14:21]:
On ball. They were. They. They had a chance. Yeah. On Indiana and didn't win. Like. Like, like that to me is. Is the problem is not utilizing what you have. I think they have more than enough talent and we saw it last year here.
Speaker C [01:14:38]:
Dude. They're eight games behind the Pistons.
Speaker A [01:14:40]:
Eight.
Speaker C [01:14:41]:
Not like 2, 3, 4.
Speaker A [01:14:43]:
What does that mean though? Does that mean that they piss? They can't beat the Pistons in the playoff Series not.
Speaker C [01:14:48]:
I don't think they could as comprise just because the way they play right now.
Speaker A [01:14:52]:
I disagree with that. That's. That's not. They can play better.
Speaker C [01:14:56]:
I don't think. I don't think.
Speaker A [01:14:57]:
So you got the Pistons going to the NBA Finals.
Speaker C [01:15:01]:
I'm asking that the day. No, I'm asking you right now. I will answer that the day after the NBA trade deadline because I got to make sure, you know, like if Giannis goes to the Knicks or goes.
Speaker A [01:15:10]:
To matter what, what, what the Pistons are doing, you don't feel confident in what they're doing, that no matter what they put together, it doesn't matter.
Speaker C [01:15:16]:
No, no, no, no.
Speaker A [01:15:17]:
Okay.
Speaker C [01:15:17]:
I think the Pistons are a great team, but I'm not going to sit up here if Giannis goes and teams up with the Knicks or teams up with Jaylen Brown or something now or you got a whole different thing. So I would want to see that. They're absolutely the best team in the East. And to me, I don't even think.
Speaker A [01:15:31]:
My Pistons going to the NBA final.
Speaker C [01:15:33]:
Their heads are their heads above them.
Speaker A [01:15:35]:
I'd be shocked. I bet a pair of Jordans they don't get to the NBA Finals. But we'll talk about that.
Speaker C [01:15:41]:
We will. We got plenty of time.
Speaker A [01:15:42]:
87799 on Fox. You cooled on the Pistons all of a sudden.
Speaker B [01:15:47]:
That's okay.
Speaker A [01:15:50]:
63, 69. Has thumbgate derailed the Knicks and should they tear their roster down to trade for Giannis or get rid of Mike Brown? Which one are you in? What camp are you in? We'll continue that conversation next with you, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington. It is the odd couple where we deliver insight, not noise, right here on Fox Sports Radio. Stick and stay. Everyone across the great US Of A.
Speaker D [01:16:48]:
Multiple executives, not just one or two multiple who we asked about this exercise all said the same thing. They said, my bold prediction is that Lamar Jackson gets traded this offseason. More specifically, Lamar Jackson gets traded to the Las Vegas Raiders. So guys, it got us thinking. If you were Tom Brady and Mark Davis and that Raiders brass in that front office, and assuming that Lamar Jackson's even available, we don't know if he is, but if he is, would you trade number one this season and a couple of first rounders in the in the future, give LaMar Jackson that $300 million contract he's looking for and bring the former MVP to Vegas, or do you stand pat? Do you take the number one overall pick, you draft the quarterback, likely Fernando Mendoza, and build from scratch that way.
Speaker C [01:17:44]:
I'M gonna go ahead and build from scratch like grandmama used to make her cakes, you know, building from scratch. Now you already know, I've said it since my whole entire tenure here that I thought Lamar Jackson was the best player.
Speaker A [01:17:54]:
So that makes no sense this year.
Speaker C [01:17:55]:
I'll tell you why it makes sense for me. Number one, Lamar Jackson went to the Ravens, which was a wonderful and well run organization that has stability and that believed in him and bought into him. Other teams might not have really viewed him the way that John harbor and that system did and allow him to flourish. They might have bought the hype that he's a receiver, he's a this, he's a that. So that worked out. I don't believe the Raiders currently as comprised have that infrastructure yet. They don't have a coach yet. I mean they have to figure out their coaching situation, how that's going to work out. They have to figure out who's going to be in the building. Is Tom Brady going to do this? What? Who's going to have more power, who's going to have more say? And to me, what you would have to invest to get him knowing this is going to be a nice slow rebuild is going to be wasting the best of him. You're going to waste two to three years of Lamar Jackson. Is he going to be injured and beat up after that? Where you don't get the best version of him? When we've also seen teams turn around by taking a year or two, finding your guy and becoming something. A lot of the Patriots who have done pretty well, huh? I like the Broncos who've done pretty well. And when you take your time, slow build, you draft, get a bunch of draft picks and you don't have to pay a quarterback a bunch of money off the bat. We have seen historically you're able to win. You saw that with Tom Brady winning Super Bowls earlier, you saw it with Ben Roethlisberger winning Super Bowls, you saw that with Russell Wilson. And so I would rather build up, see what we got, slow roll this thing we know it's going to take some time, use a bunch of draft picks, get better and find out who we are and what we are. Lamar is incredible but coming there singularly and what we'd have to give up then he. That doesn't make us all of a sudden better simply because it's him, it's not the NBA. And you get 28 year old, 29 year old Lamar's case, LeBron or 29 year old Shaq, that's A different situation because what one player can do on a team in the NBA. So I'm not saying it's an easy decision, but I want to get our guy, our quarterback build up, slow up, get draft picks, get better, build the organization because they're going to be bad if they get Lamar tomorrow because what they'd have to give up and it'll take forever to get good and you might have wasted two to four years of Lamar. So I'd rather do it that way.
Speaker A [01:19:52]:
I just think you need a quarterback and if that's the starting point because you're out of it. I mean they, they, they, they didn't do anything well and there's got to be another plan. Obviously it's. You can't be just him and there's got to be maybe free agency some other situations. Okay. But I would always the idea of getting a Mendoza and he didn't even play great yesterday. He's fine. And I'm not saying he's not. But there's no guarantee he's going to be anything special. Okay. And. And there's so many bad quarterbacks and guys that people have put energy into and believing that they're the next this or next that and most of them don't. I said there's a fail rate is 60%. I'd say it's that high that most people don't pan out. So if you could. I don't think the Ravens are trading him. Okay. I'd be absolutely stunned if the Raiders Ravens traded.
Speaker C [01:20:44]:
Now that I agree with. But I'm not.
Speaker A [01:20:47]:
I'm just saying especially you got rid of Harbaugh so that. That you're with a hardball and the quarterback.
Speaker C [01:20:51]:
I'm with you.
Speaker A [01:20:52]:
That. That make. There's no logic there. So. So that part I don't get. But I would always go for the commodity of the quarterback and then build around the quarterback. And even if it takes. Lamar's 29. Right. I'm saying can he. Can he get five years? Cause it's not about. And I know people winning multiple. It's not most organizations would take one. Even the Lions. The Lions are what they have. If they can somehow during this whole thing now that's what's scary for them is that if they don't get one with Jared Goff and this five or six years it will have been wasted. Yeah.
Speaker C [01:23:36]:
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Speaker A [01:24:02]:
Blood Mexican.
Speaker C [01:24:05]:
Rob G. The goat bud, Mexican, whatever you want to call them. One's got to go. Coming up a little bit later on this hour as well. And all right. 87799 on Fox. What the heck is going on? Is it thumbgates problem that we. The Knicks are terrible right now, huh? Is it Mike Brown? Should have been Larry Brown. Now they got Charlie Brown. According to Rob.
Speaker A [01:24:24]:
That's right.
Speaker C [01:24:26]:
Are you going to get to Greek freak? That's what I'm doing. I'm walking him to New York City. What are you doing? 87799 on Fox. Who we got?
Speaker A [01:24:36]:
Chris in Bakersfield, California. You're on the odd couple, Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Chris?
Speaker C [01:24:41]:
Going on, y'.
Speaker B [01:24:42]:
All.
Speaker A [01:24:42]:
How are you?
Speaker C [01:24:43]:
What's up?
Speaker B [01:24:43]:
I'm pretty good, man. Hey, the New York Knicks cannot break down that team to get Yana. Last year they were so close to winning the championship on the conference championship. The only reason why they lost was because they played the players played 48 hours game. They didn't give no rest at all. And that's the reason why they lost last year. This year, Mike Brown cannot make the same mistake for the players. That's what I'm all I gotta say.
Speaker A [01:25:03]:
What, what, what do you think is happening with Cat, you know, going from his best year to struggling this year. That, like that, that's a, that's a bad sign for Mike Bryant now.
Speaker B [01:25:16]:
No, it is.
Speaker C [01:25:16]:
You're right.
Speaker B [01:25:17]:
And I believe, I believe that is Mike Brown's job to get it right. Whether they have to change Mike Brown, they can't do it in the middle of the season. It's gonna make things worse. But if they get, if they break the team down to get Yana, they won't be back in the playoffs at all for another couple of years.
Speaker C [01:25:29]:
What does that say about Giannis then? If I got Giannis and Brunson, I can't make the playoffs. That's what, what are we saying here? Per perennial MVP candidate and I got him with another MVP candidate, Brunson, who are both relatively still young, late 20s, early 31 for Giannis, and I can't make the postseason in the east, man, If y' all don't stop, then that's an indictment on everything. Come on, Rob. That's crazy.
Speaker A [01:25:52]:
Jay, in Houston, you're on the Odd Couple, Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Jay?
Speaker B [01:25:57]:
What's up, Rob?
Speaker A [01:25:59]:
How are you?
Speaker B [01:26:00]:
Your knickerboppers should tear the house down for Giannis Ante Contumo right now like yesterday.
Speaker A [01:26:10]:
Is that what you do? You would do that?
Speaker B [01:26:13]:
I would tear the house down. I would sell everybody. The staff, cheerleaders, even the janitors. Rob Parker.
Speaker C [01:26:20]:
Okay.
Speaker A [01:26:21]:
All right, Jay. We hear you, my man.
Speaker C [01:26:23]:
Appreciate it.
Speaker A [01:26:24]:
You ready to start all over? They would just thought they were going.
Speaker C [01:26:27]:
To even the cheerleaders.
Speaker A [01:26:28]:
NBA championship a year ago. My goodness. I don't know. I. It's just weird at how bad it is. And again, it is effort should never. That. That like. Like you go cold streaks, things happen in basketball. You're gonna lose some games. That's. That doesn't bother me. It's the other stuff, right? That. That no effort.
Speaker C [01:26:49]:
Yeah, no effort. In fact, that listen and I'm listen. I. Mike Brown, God bless him, but like again, I don't know an identifying trait for him. You get what I'm saying? Like, I don't know what he. What he brings. And just looking at them over the last handful of games, Rob, I mean, they're losing to.
Speaker A [01:27:05]:
What do you call Sacramento NBA Siberia.
Speaker C [01:27:09]:
Well, they get. They lost to them a handful of days ago. The warriors been on the struggle bus, you know, now. Well, obviously now with all the stuff going on. He lost to them. The Mavericks ain't been nothing all season. I don't even have Anthony Davis. They blew them out.
Speaker A [01:27:24]:
Madison Square Garden on Martin Luther King.
Speaker C [01:27:27]:
Martin Luther King Day. That was not the dream. And I mean, so it's just. You're looking around. It's like, man, dude, they're losing. The teams lost the multiple times and of the Suns in the last week and a half. It's just. It's just rough. The Pistons beat him by 31. The 76ers beat them by. Was that double digits. I mean, the Hawks beat them by double digits. Spurs beat them. I mean, it's just, dude, it's been rough for them right now. And that when you got to keep having players meetings or keep having to have conversations about effort, the idea say about Mike Brown.
Speaker A [01:28:01]:
That's what I'm saying. When. When players have to have them players only and talk about that and then it gets out that it's about effort and you guys need to buckle down, lock in and work really.
Speaker D [01:28:13]:
Rob G. I just got a question. I'm not trying to absolve Mike Brown of blame, right.
Speaker C [01:28:18]:
But at what point I was going.
Speaker A [01:28:20]:
To say that, I was going to say now you, you were here when he was with the lake.
Speaker D [01:28:23]:
I was. He got a, he got a nice Oakley deal if you recall back in the day with the Lakers. So you got a sponsorship deal. Being with the Lakers got privileges. But at what point do we say hey OG Anunoby, you're also having your worst season in like six years. Mikel Bridges who we gave five first round picks up for has scored 20 more than 20 points once since, since Christmas he's disappeared, you know what I mean? Like at what point do I say yeah Carl Anthony has. It's easy to rag on him because he's kind of awkward and he's you know, says some pause worthy type of things every once in a while a little bit, right? Like and, and they never say anything about Jalen Brunson because he's a little engine that could. But it's like yo, the rest of the team is also playing poorly.
Speaker A [01:29:08]:
But this is the problem.
Speaker C [01:29:09]:
Why? Why?
Speaker A [01:29:10]:
Rob G. The problem is is you can't go and point to eight players.
Speaker D [01:29:16]:
But I'm paying you $50 million a year. OG Anunoby, I expect more than what you're giving me.
Speaker A [01:29:21]:
But dude have to ask yourself why is it had eight players or six players exactly not playing well? Is it the right coach with the right system to utilize the people? Right. I could understand if one or two guys aren't playing well Kelvin but there's too many guys having really bad seasons. So do they really know their roles? Are they defined enough? Is Mike Brown utilize them the right.
Speaker C [01:29:43]:
Way, running the right offense, right? All this stuff matters.
Speaker A [01:29:47]:
You can't go from Cat having the best season of his career to this. That that's something. What, what's changed? Only one thing's changed. The coaches change.
Speaker D [01:29:55]:
So the one thing, and you guys talked about it earlier that Tibbs had going for him which was a credit and a fault to him, was that he would ride his team into the ground. He would treat game number six, that's.
Speaker A [01:30:05]:
Why he's never won anything.
Speaker D [01:30:06]:
The same as he would treat game number 86, right. He in the second game six of the playoffs are the same as they were, you know the second game of a back to back in Charlotte, right? That's how he wrote his team. And maybe it says that this current group of guys, this collection of the Nova Knicks that they needed someone to kick their ass every day because they weren't self motivated enough to perform on a night tonight basis. So maybe it's them. Maybe it's them.
Speaker C [01:30:32]:
So. But what I'm saying is then general manager, you have to know your team. And if that's what we needed, why am I getting rid of what we needed? What? What, what? For what reasons? Rob keeps bringing James Dolan.
Speaker D [01:30:43]:
Stupid.
Speaker C [01:30:44]:
Well, well then now we can check. We can go to trending.
Speaker A [01:30:46]:
Now.
Speaker C [01:30:47]:
I ain't got an argument for that. I ain't got an argument for that. Rob G. Come on now. You know, I just. But yeah, I, I, Mike Brown, again, we disagree. Rob and I on the. I got the sentiment. If there's someone else out there. I thought Tibbs was moving in the right direction. Back to back 50 wins after they choked postseason. Yeah, they choked the game, but okay, I got a guy. We're right there. We're two games away from the finals.
Speaker A [01:31:10]:
For them to fire him when they gave him a new extension that some. Some tells you all you need to know. I mean, seriously, they're not just giving away free money.
Speaker D [01:31:20]:
But doesn't that tell you that like so many other owners has rabbit ears?
Speaker A [01:31:24]:
No, it's just.
Speaker D [01:31:24]:
And that he didn't like being the laughing stock of the league for 48.
Speaker A [01:31:27]:
Hours or whatever it was the idea that he had.
Speaker D [01:31:30]:
It was their most successful team that they've had in decades.
Speaker C [01:31:34]:
Exactly. Back 50 win seasons.
Speaker A [01:31:36]:
Yeah, but you have to understand, and.
Speaker C [01:31:38]:
I'm just the best out of Cat.
Speaker A [01:31:41]:
And the exit because they didn't have a coach in waiting. So I told you that this wasn't set up or pre determined that they realized after what went down and talking to the players in the exit interviews that they needed to move off of Tibs. I'm telling you, that's why it happened.
Speaker D [01:31:56]:
It sounds like these players are soft.
Speaker A [01:31:57]:
Well, a lot of them are.
Speaker D [01:32:00]:
I'm not gonna argue that.
Speaker A [01:32:02]:
I argue everything.
Speaker C [01:32:05]:
Two things we couldn't argue. Some of these players are soft and Mike Dolan is not smart. We couldn't argue with you on that, James. All right. Yeah. All right. We got to talk about the offensive coordinators and everybody's ducking and dodging the Eagles. Why is that? We'll tell you next. Right now, Monty Belanos is going to get you set on what's trendy.
Speaker A [01:32:22]:
Hey, Monty.
Speaker E [01:32:23]:
Hi, guys. Well, the Eagle offensive coordinator, Matt Nagy for their vacant offensive coordinator position today. The Chiefs have agreed to terms with Eric B. Enemy to bring him back as their offensive coordinator. And the Bills will continue their search for a new head coach coach Tomorrow they have interviews scheduled with former Giants head coach Brian Dabel and current Colts defensive coordinator Lou Anarumo. That is all for tomorrow. Defensive coordinator Brian Flores has signed a contract extension with the Vikings. If he does not receive a head coaching job this cycle, which Mr. Rob Parker doesn't think will happen, he will be back as the team's defensive coordinator in the NBA. It's halftime and the Cavaliers are up on the Hornets 56 to 32. Late in the second quarter, the Celtics are up on the Pacers 59 to 37 and the Knicks lead the Nets 57 to 30. Also late in the second quarter. Late in the first between the Hawks and the Grizzlies, Atlanta is up 28 to 27, just like the Pistons and the Pelicans. Detroit is up 29 to 22. No Kate Cunningham for Detroit today because of illness in men's college hoops. With about 10 minutes to go, number 11, Illinois extending their lead over Maryland 71 to 46. Also halfway through the second half, number 22, North Carolina is up on Notre Dame 70 to 47. And in the NHL, the Red Wings and the Maple Leaves are tied at one apiece. It's late in the second period. Back to you guys.
Speaker C [01:33:42]:
All right, Monty, thank you. Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington On a worship Wednesday, Aleve is here to help you keep your New Year's resolutions on track. With up to 12 hours of body pain relief per dose, Aleve keeps you moving with long lasting body pain relief so you can achieve your goals. Use as directed for minor aches and pains. And Rob G. We were talking about this. Monty just touched on a little bit as well. Offensive coordinator position open with the Eagles and they're struggling to find somebody to fill it.
Speaker D [01:34:10]:
And it's crazy to say out loud when you consider they got a Super Bowl MVP quarterback, a 2,000 yard rusher, two Pro bowl all Pro caliber wide receivers, a great offensive line and for.
Speaker A [01:34:22]:
Whatever reason, I know the reason, but.
Speaker D [01:34:24]:
They cannot get a top flight offensive coordinator to save their life. They, according to multiple outlets, they wanted Mike McDaniel to be their OC. And he's like, you know what? Nah, I'd rather be an OC for Jim Harbaugh and Justin Herbert with the Chargers. Then like all right, how about Brian Day Ball? He had some success with Josh Allen back in the day with Buffalo. I know it didn't go well in New York, but he's got some skin in the game here and according to the athletic Brian Dabal, if he doesn't get the head gig with the Bills. And Josh Allen has already decided that he would rather be the OC for the Tennessee Titans with Cam Ward than come over to Philadelphia. Guys, what is it about this Eagle situation that they can't get the top guys there to run their offense?
Speaker A [01:35:08]:
To me, it's very simple. It's a. It's a very unstable situation. And Ceriani, he doesn't have. He's not on solid footing. We saw this in Philadelphia already. Just because you win a Super bowl doesn't mean you're going to stick around. We saw John Harbaugh get 18 years and Mike Tomlin get 19. Those are the exceptions. Ask Doug Peterson, right? Where's he.
Speaker C [01:35:33]:
Right. No, you're right.
Speaker A [01:35:34]:
Okay. He was in Philadelphia. They couldn't wait. And if you got to go somewhere, I could see where Mike McDaniel decide to come to California. There's no pressure. There's no. Justin Herbert was awful. And nothing happened out here. Nobody made up a heart attack. Oh, let's get rid of Jim Harbaugh. What is he doing? He's wasting just nothing. Did you hear Peep, Kelvin? You're out here in la, not a peep. It's easier. Some people don't want that smoke. It's Philadelphia. They've had how many Rob G. How many different offensive coordinators?
Speaker C [01:36:10]:
Three. Seven right. Seven.
Speaker A [01:36:11]:
Six. They've had six in. Jalen hurts his time right in the league. Six because they keep getting run out. Who would want to go do that? If you're going to replace the OC every year and there's an issue. Kellen Moore got a job. That's the only guy that was like, okay, he got a job and moved on. All these other guys, one and done. They want you out. That's why it's hard to fill a job. It ain't because they don't want to play with Jalen Hurts or Saquon Barkley or anything like that. Sirianni is on thin ice. I go there, I could be out with him in one year. That, that, that's, that's a hard sell. They're not giving you a four year contract fully guaranteed to come.
Speaker C [01:36:55]:
I don't think Nick Sirianni elicits like, wow, that's the guy I want to be up under. I don't think he. I don't think other coaches feel like that. And not to mention to be told. I think some of the coaches might feel like, well, I ain't about to go coach about that guy. Somebody. I feel like I would be a better coach then. I think that plays a role, right? You don't want to sit up under a guy like, man, please, I'm not listening and taking orders from that guy when I know. I feel like I'm a better coach than him. Mike McDaniels, absolutely. I could see, feel like I could run this team better than him, than Nick Sirianni also. Again, if they don't. Right now, as we sit here today doing the October, we don't know what A.J. brown's situation is. And am I walking into where I don't give him the ball after a game or so, all chaos. The offense coordinator's tripping. He's not giving me the ball. Jalen hurts this. Me hurting AJ And Jalen Beef, and I'm walking into chaos. And I. I'll put it like this. When you have your own family in chaos, it's one thing, right? You know, Uncle Bob always tripping, you know, or that's just how my brother is. But it's organized chaos. This is our family. This is how we roll. And I'm used to it. I know what it is.
Speaker B [01:37:55]:
This.
Speaker C [01:37:55]:
It's another thing me wanted to come into that chaos. And I think there's coaches who are saying, I don't. I don't want to walk into that right now. There's just. They don't know what's going on. They don't seem to like each other. And. And like you mentioned, guys are leaving, guys are coming, guys are going.
Speaker A [01:38:08]:
And it's unstable. It's. It's unstable.
Speaker C [01:38:11]:
And you're walking into pressure because now they've been to two Super Bowls in the last four years or so that you can't come in there and be 7 and 10, right? The expectation now is, and if win a division, clearly NFC Championship, super bowl, that. That's all they are operating under right now. And so you're walking right into that on an unstable situation with chaos, with a family that's feuding. And I think that's like, nah, I'll pass. If you're Mike McDaniel, say, let me go have Justin Herbert. We all talk about how they love him. Oh, let me get a hold of him. Watch what I would do. Oh, he's going to be this. So let me go be with Justin Herbert in la.
Speaker A [01:38:46]:
No pressure.
Speaker C [01:38:48]:
No pressure. Different circumstances under Jim Harbaugh, maybe. A guy I feel like would be a great overarching, you know, a leader of men where I can do what I do and, and you could come here and sell that. I think it's a completely different. And you know, the fan base in Philly versus the Charger fan base in here, la, no way near the same. So it, it makes sense to me. When we talked about this for the show today, I was like, I'm not shocked at all. That doesn't surprise me.
Speaker A [01:39:12]:
Right. I just. It's not an attractive job for a lot of the reasons you just brought up up and mostly that it's unstable. So I would rather go somewhere else because there's a big upside if, because there's talent and if you were able to come and turn that around and make Jalen Hurts, you know, even better and get that offense working and Antonio Brown, I mean A.J. brown, you know, and, and Saquon back into the mix, it could be good and you could be the guy that was the fixer. Right. And that could springboard you to a job, head coaching job if you were able to get that turned around. But I think, I really believe it's just so unsettling that I think a lot of guys would. Someone's going to take the job, but they're going to look first with all these 10 openings. First to see is there another situation that maybe I could squeeze more money out of and not have to worry about having to relocate in another year. Like because that I'm gonna move to Philadelphia for one year when I can go to Tennessee and get a three year deal. You know what I mean? Like they might, hey, yeah, you want me to come? Only way I can come. I need a three year deal or I need.
Speaker C [01:40:23]:
And it's a slow build up too, right. Meaning Cam Ward.
Speaker A [01:40:26]:
There's no pressure.
Speaker C [01:40:27]:
There's no pressure, no pressure. It's a slow build up and that everybody sees the talents there. But obviously that team had no real weapons. They didn't know what they were doing and fire coach after coach last couple years. So it's like great. I get to go there slow bill, we went four, five games, six game there. He looks better. He throws 20 touchdowns, only maybe eight and you know what I mean? It could build up and look what I'm doing. Wow. Two, three years of that. You're a head coaching. You get the Titans to win in 10 games in a couple years and Cam Ward to being, you know, throwing 4,000 yards, 30 touchdowns, eight, 10 interceptions. You're a head coach immediately. So I, I think the slow progression, they probably feel like it's only downhill for the Eagles versus it obviously should only be up for the. Somewhere like the Titans or Justin Herbert where you already know he's gonna be good. He's at least good. The issue is the playoffs, not necessarily regular season for him.
Speaker A [01:41:17]:
All right, all right.
Speaker C [01:41:18]:
One's gotta go on the other side. We'll do that when we come back. It is the odd couple. Robin Kelvin on a worship Wednesday. Stick with your boys. Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker A [01:41:59]:
Texans.
Speaker C [01:42:00]:
Yeah.
Speaker A [01:42:00]:
And C.J. stroud. We talked about. You got his numbers there because it was an awful performance. I'll pull those out. And we talked about it.
Speaker C [01:42:06]:
My computer, my blowup.
Speaker A [01:42:07]:
Look, in two games, he had 10 turnovers in basically six quarters, right? 10 turnovers, five fumbles, five interceptions. He had four interceptions in the first half of this game against the Patriots.
Speaker C [01:42:23]:
Yeah. O. The completion percentage, what do you think it was?
Speaker A [01:42:28]:
40%.
Speaker C [01:42:29]:
Good guess. 42.6.
Speaker A [01:42:30]:
Okay.
Speaker C [01:42:31]:
His quarterback rating.
Speaker A [01:42:33]:
24.
Speaker C [01:42:33]:
You're pretty good. 28.
Speaker A [01:42:35]:
What was it? I'm just guessing.
Speaker C [01:42:36]:
28. That's somebody's age. 28.
Speaker A [01:42:40]:
Okay.
Speaker C [01:42:43]:
I'm 28. That's not your quarterback. Rate's supposed to be somebody who ain't with us no more. You know, 98, 102, not 28.
Speaker A [01:42:50]:
And. And. And we said this on this show. And do we have this, Ian? We have the sound. Let's go back when we were talking.
Speaker C [01:42:59]:
About CJ Or Mills. Forgot his life.
Speaker A [01:43:04]:
Right.
Speaker C [01:43:04]:
I missed him. Yeah. David Davis Mills.
Speaker A [01:43:06]:
Right? Davis Mills.
Speaker C [01:43:07]:
That's a law firm.
Speaker A [01:43:08]:
And whether or not what they should do when CJ Came back from injury. I'm gonna stick with Davis Mills and not automatically run back to CJ Stroud if I'm the Texans. And I'm not saying that C.J. stroud lost his job because injury or anything, sometimes you have something going. A hot hand. I. I think that you could take a look at that. And obviously the defense is playing really well. But what have we talked about the last year and a half, their offense with. With CJ Stroud. Right?
Speaker C [01:43:40]:
Like.
Speaker A [01:43:41]:
Like, remember after his rookie year. Go back and look. Everybody picked him to go to the Super Bowl.
Speaker C [01:43:48]:
Am I right?
Speaker A [01:43:49]:
Am I overreacting? It was. It was.
Speaker C [01:43:51]:
You weren't. You're not. That was a sexy pick.
Speaker A [01:43:53]:
Oh, yeah. See the C.J. stroud and the Texans. Oh.
Speaker C [01:43:57]:
MVP.
Speaker A [01:43:57]:
A lot of people. Oh, yeah. He's just a rookie. Look at how you gonna stop that kid. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's been raggedy since then. Since year one. And here's the other thing we Talked about it going into the playoffs. The weak link was CJ And I know people that he appears to be a great guy. I don't know him, never met him. But you could see all the love people give him. T.J. hushman. Zada said, Hey, I know C.J. well, you know, I'm, I'm cool with him and know what kind of guy he is, which is fine. But even CJ said still gotta win. Like that's nice being a nice guy and, and not. And a God fearing man and all.
Speaker C [01:44:36]:
That reason you lose.
Speaker A [01:44:37]:
Exactly. And you can't be that when you have a Super bowl type defense where you could win a Super Bowl. You could be Brad Johnson.
Speaker C [01:44:45]:
Yep.
Speaker A [01:44:45]:
You could be Trent Dilfer. Trent Dilfer. That's what they needed CJ to do. And cj, if you remember after that first year he went around on every show he could go bragging about he was a top five quarterback. This is after one year in the national football. He has not been close to that. Troy Aikman called him out on television that he's, he's regressed, he's not gotten better. And to throw the ball up for grabs. And I got a question and wonder. Tamiko Ryan's. I would have pulled the plug in the second half.
Speaker C [01:45:19]:
I, I would have but so I, I asked you that. Remember we were sitting here the first game, I was like, do you go to Mills now?
Speaker A [01:45:26]:
Because that was against the Steelers when he was turning the ball off.
Speaker C [01:45:29]:
You felt like you should be up 14 the way that defense was playing and you're barely, you weren't even up or whatever it was at that time I asked you that. I was like, do you go to Mills now?
Speaker A [01:45:37]:
But let, but, but that game with the season on the line, four turnover, four interceptions in the first half. That, that, that, that can't happen. That's as bad as it gets. And Demika rhymes, he's our guy. We get all that. Some days you just don't have it. What about the rest of the team? They made a mistake. They were still in that game until.
Speaker C [01:46:02]:
That last second touchdown catch by Booty.
Speaker A [01:46:04]:
Which was, which was not Booty. That was some catch.
Speaker C [01:46:07]:
You was quick on that one.
Speaker A [01:46:08]:
Not. That was.
Speaker C [01:46:08]:
Don't leave me hanging.
Speaker A [01:46:09]:
Oh, that was some catch.
Speaker C [01:46:10]:
That was incredible. One hand grabbed. By the way, to your question, to your point about Davis Mills, he was playing well, so I'm not saying he.
Speaker A [01:46:17]:
Was the, the best one going, but.
Speaker C [01:46:19]:
In the four games he played meaningful. You know, minutes obviously started. I think three of them and came in and the first one against the Broncos, you're looking at a couple of games of 292 yards one time. Yeah, he missed it. Miami missed it. Yeah.
Speaker A [01:46:32]:
Wow.
Speaker C [01:46:32]:
Two touchdowns, only one interception. Next game, 274 yards versus Titans, one touchdown, no interceptions. Against the Bills. 153 yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions. So he had five touchdowns, one interception in that, in that stretch. You know where he, where he was playing in those three games and they were 3, 0. So you know, he, he had a, a case of saying, hey, don't forget about me.
Speaker A [01:47:03]:
Cruising. All right?
Speaker C [01:47:40]:
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Speaker A [01:48:09]:
Five's a crowd. Is that what I'm cleaning here? Five, uneven number. Figure it out.
Speaker C [01:48:15]:
Hear me out, all right? Rob Gay was talking to me and talking about there's a, a new trend out here in the streets. Rob Parker, something you'll remember because you had to do it. I had to do it. We had to do it. We all had to do it. And that is kids nowadays are not doing chores. So it's a viral thing about kids aren't doing chores anymore. What's changed? What's going on? And so it got me to thinking, what chores did you have to do back to in the day when you were a little b. Well, they called you Bobby, right?
Speaker A [01:48:49]:
They still call me that. Uncle Bobby.
Speaker C [01:48:51]:
Uncle Bobby. When you were a little Bobby around the neighborhood, my friends and you had to do chores.
Speaker A [01:48:56]:
My family Bobby. But my friends. Bob, if, you know, if anybody knows me, you ever hear them call me Bob, that means they know me for a long time.
Speaker C [01:49:04]:
A long time.
Speaker E [01:49:05]:
You don't look like a Bob.
Speaker A [01:49:06]:
I know it's weird, but they don't want to call me Bobby like my family, so they call me.
Speaker C [01:49:10]:
Right. Okay. All right. So Bob, Rob.
Speaker A [01:49:14]:
Rob.
Speaker C [01:49:17]:
How long has it known you? Okay, what's the criteria? I've known you for a long time. What's the number at. What's the. It gotta be 25, 30 years.
Speaker A [01:49:23]:
Yeah, 30 years. You gotta know.
Speaker B [01:49:24]:
I know you that long, Rob.
Speaker C [01:49:26]:
You might not be around by then. For me.
Speaker A [01:49:27]:
Yeah, I know, I know that's a long Time. Alex, when I'm laying there in the casket, just go call him, Bob. Just call.
Speaker E [01:49:35]:
Nice.
Speaker C [01:49:36]:
All right, Bob Dubarb, people. So, Alex, Monty, Rob G. Bob. Here we go.
Speaker A [01:49:43]:
Oh, here we go.
Speaker C [01:49:44]:
The chores from back in the day that you did when you were a kid that. That obviously, apparently kids aren't doing anymore. One's got to go. The one you say, thank God I don't have to do that anymore, you know, or at least I hated doing that when I was a kid. Number one, dishes. Number two, floors. And we're counting that as sweeping and mopping. Number three, garbage detail. All the garbage in the house. Getting it together, that's too easy. Then this one is different, because Rob Parker and I grew up on the east coast where you had to shovel snow. Y' all don't know nothing about that.
Speaker A [01:50:17]:
Rob G. Have you ever shoveled snow? How about you, Alex? Monty?
Speaker E [01:50:21]:
That's not real.
Speaker A [01:50:22]:
Never at all.
Speaker C [01:50:23]:
So. So for you, Southern California, we're gonna come to Detroit.
Speaker A [01:50:27]:
We snow. Shovel snow a lot.
Speaker C [01:50:30]:
It's. We could spend the rest of the time explaining y' all how real that weather is.
Speaker A [01:50:35]:
Like, I know it is, but keeping.
Speaker C [01:50:36]:
Ice creepers back in the day, river. Rob, you could break your key in your key because it was being frozen. You put your key and you turn it too hard, you break your key. Y', all, seriously, it was crazy. So we're gonna count for you, Southern California. These are going to be outdoors. So it's either for Rob and I was shoveling and all that for you all mowing lawns or raking leaves, like those kind of things outside. And then lastly, laundry. Okay? Laundry, folding, Doing laundry. Doing your laundry. Okay? So we got dishes, we got floors. Sweeping and mopping. We have garbage detail. We have laundry, washing, drying, folding, all that good stuff. And then we have outdoors. So again, for shoveling for us and all that, mowing lawns and raking leaves for you guys.
Speaker A [01:51:18]:
Alex, you go first. Oh, it's easy.
Speaker C [01:51:20]:
I'm like you gentlemen. I don't get on my knees.
Speaker A [01:51:21]:
We ain't cleaning floors. No, no, I'm done. You're not getting on your knees? No, sir.
Speaker C [01:51:27]:
Thumbs up to that, Rob. Hey, now, Alex, I don't know. Somebody would argue with you, but let it slide. Who? Well, no, Mondays themselves about buns be out. I. I don't know.
Speaker D [01:51:38]:
The camera on me.
Speaker C [01:51:40]:
Can we show nudity?
Speaker A [01:51:41]:
No, you can't. No, no.
Speaker C [01:51:43]:
Rob. Rob. That already happened to Rob, Alex. When his pants fell down the other day.
Speaker A [01:51:47]:
Hey, it's the same sweatpants I'm wearing today. Rob G. Saw me earlier.
Speaker C [01:51:51]:
Stay seated.
Speaker A [01:51:52]:
They. They almost fell off.
Speaker C [01:51:54]:
I've seen more crack than Harlem in the 80s.
Speaker A [01:51:57]:
Wow.
Speaker D [01:51:58]:
Rob walked up to me slanging hot dogs. I was like, rob, you need to relax, buddy.
Speaker C [01:52:01]:
Hey, yo.
Speaker D [01:52:03]:
Get some pants to fit.
Speaker C [01:52:04]:
Settle down. You. Those were the weenies. All right.
Speaker D [01:52:07]:
Wow.
Speaker A [01:52:09]:
Mon. You don't buy into me.
Speaker E [01:52:11]:
You know, I'm just going to bypass what Alex said.
Speaker B [01:52:13]:
Who?
Speaker C [01:52:13]:
Who? We got my Monty. Alex or Alex. So Alex says floors. Yes, Monty, what you got?
Speaker E [01:52:18]:
You didn't mention it in the floors. I hated vacuuming.
Speaker A [01:52:22]:
Really?
Speaker E [01:52:22]:
Vacuuming. I still hate it. But you didn't put that in your thing. I also don't like washing the dishes. I don't like submerging my hands in water.
Speaker C [01:52:29]:
Why vacuum, though?
Speaker E [01:52:31]:
I just hated taking it out and like pushing it. And I was like, it's so heavy. Like now.
Speaker A [01:52:36]:
When you wash dishes, do you put on gloves?
Speaker D [01:52:38]:
Yes.
Speaker A [01:52:38]:
Okay.
Speaker E [01:52:39]:
Yes. But I still hated that. Like I said, just didn't like it.
Speaker C [01:52:41]:
But the.
Speaker E [01:52:41]:
The vacuum that was back in the day was a big vacuum.
Speaker C [01:52:44]:
You know what I mean?
Speaker E [01:52:44]:
It wasn't like a little one nowadays.
Speaker A [01:52:46]:
What always bothered me is I tried to buy a dishwasher for my mom for our house.
Speaker E [01:52:52]:
Latinos don't have dishwashers.
Speaker A [01:52:54]:
No. And my mom was like, do not buy me a dishwasher. She said, if Sears. If a Sears truck shows up with a dishwasher, I will not let them in. Because, you know, I was being okay. I got a job. I want to, you know, like, let me get.
Speaker C [01:53:09]:
Let me help mom.
Speaker A [01:53:09]:
Let me help mom out. I'm get you a dish. She said, do not. She cuz she knew where my head was, so she refused. She goes old school. I'm not going to wash the dishes and then put it in the dish. Right.
Speaker C [01:53:22]:
She wasn't wrong. I do get that. That you got to pre wash them just to wash them. It is a little crazy. Robbie, where you at?
Speaker D [01:53:29]:
I did both of these today, but I got to pick one. I did the dishes today. I did the laundry today. I could do.
Speaker A [01:53:34]:
Your wife has it made? Your wife has it made.
Speaker D [01:53:37]:
No, we just got two little kids. So ask Kelvin. There's a cup and a plate and a fork everywhere at all times of the day.
Speaker A [01:53:45]:
We're in paper cups.
Speaker C [01:53:47]:
Rob G. What he's getting at is us new modern men that we work hard all day, we still change diapers, we still wash, we still cook. Rob Parker. That's what you.
Speaker D [01:53:58]:
Oh, what do you mean? They Rob, who is they, boy?
Speaker A [01:54:02]:
Hey, yo.
Speaker C [01:54:03]:
Hey, Rob, you better hold this today. Tony. Tony will let you have it, boy. Rob G. It's a part we try to. The object is to win.
Speaker A [01:54:13]:
Yes.
Speaker C [01:54:14]:
No matter who's doing what, we trying to win.
Speaker A [01:54:16]:
Right. Okay.
Speaker C [01:54:17]:
We're trying to be able to get.
Speaker D [01:54:18]:
From one room to the next without tripping outside.
Speaker A [01:54:20]:
All right.
Speaker C [01:54:21]:
I can't. Yes. For me, it's the dishes. Easy. Your boy. I, I just listen, this is, that's just, that's not my bag right now. And, and I, I, I try to do them every now and again. I look hopeless. I look horrible. She's. Get out the way. I got it. So I, I have dishes. It's just not necessarily your boy's territory. So.
Speaker A [01:54:39]:
For me. Go ahead.
Speaker C [01:54:41]:
What you got, Rob?
Speaker A [01:54:42]:
For me, it was shoveling. I just, I like to go out there and then. Living in Detroit my last year, 2016. Living there.
Speaker C [01:54:49]:
Yeah.
Speaker A [01:54:50]:
It snowed every other day. So you would go out and shovel. And I had a big yard with a basketball court, my car. I'd have to do all that. That, you know, to get. And then I would go to sleep, wake up the next day.
Speaker C [01:55:01]:
Yeah.
Speaker A [01:55:01]:
And have to go back out there. It was just.
Speaker C [01:55:03]:
Y' all don't know about that life.
Speaker A [01:55:04]:
Yeah. No, it was really bad.
Speaker C [01:55:06]:
It's, it's really bad. You break it and you had to used to. Every night again, you have to use a CD case to scrape your window if you didn't have your ice scraper. It was crazy. Southern California kids.
Speaker A [01:55:23]:
It.
Speaker C [01:56:05]:
It's the Odd Couple. You know what time it is? It's your boys.
Speaker A [01:56:09]:
Let's get it. The Odd Couple is fun.
Speaker C [01:56:13]:
Check.
Speaker A [01:56:14]:
And informative.
Speaker C [01:56:15]:
Check.
Speaker A [01:56:15]:
What's up, America? You want to talk sports with one and a half of the best looking guys in the game?
Speaker C [01:56:20]:
That game was incredible.
Speaker A [01:56:22]:
You are wrong. You'll be king of the water cooler.
Speaker C [01:56:27]:
What's it like working with Rob? Rob in his mind is like Chris Rock mixed with Richard Pryor. So I'm running out of fake laughs. Ha ha. Rob. Rob is very passionate.
Speaker A [01:56:37]:
Son, you ain't ready for this. Well, I don't have BS in my game. Game. I'm straightforward, I'm honest. You say Brady's the greatest quarterback of all time, but Eli Manning beat him twice. And of course, it doesn't hurt that I'm right most of the time. Kelvin is the nice guy, wants to make everybody feel warm and fuzzy.
Speaker C [01:57:00]:
You done? Let me tell you the truth. I bring the energy, a useful energy. Rob's not gonna see this, is he? And I bring an honor, honest opinion, Michael Jordan. I can't take it anymore. I need a break. I'm gonna go play baseball.
Speaker A [01:57:14]:
Trash talking Tuesday is the best.
Speaker C [01:57:17]:
It's a great opportunity for folks to call in and they get to trash whomever. Who you trashing, Roger?
Speaker B [01:57:24]:
I'm trashing LeBron James and Michael Jordan. They can't even hold Wilt Chamberlain's shoes.
Speaker C [01:57:33]:
Stop talking about the king like that. It's a new era. Let LeBron be the best, please.
Speaker A [01:57:37]:
I only recognize one king in the United States and that's Burger King. The connection with the Odd Couple audience is incredible. We really invite them in and they.
Speaker C [01:57:49]:
Can relate, whether it be things about our own personal lives or our takes on sports.
Speaker B [01:57:52]:
Love you guys. You guys are killing it.
Speaker C [01:57:54]:
Hey, we appreciate you. Thank you for rocking with your boys. They feel like it's just my guys, just. Just my friends and they join right in on the show.
Speaker A [01:58:01]:
We talk with the listeners, not at them.
Speaker C [01:58:03]:
Obviously you can listen to us live, but you can still check out the podcast. You can check out our YouTube, you can check us out on social media. So in any way you want to get it, you can get it.
Speaker A [01:58:13]:
Yes.
Speaker C [01:58:13]:
There's some yelling. It is some hot takes. It's a whole lot of fun, I'll give you that.
Speaker A [01:58:18]:
I give you that. It is fun. I agree. Begrudgingly.
Speaker C [01:58:22]:
The Odd Couple sports talk, that that's.
Speaker A [01:58:25]:
Too good and too far. It. Sa.
Speaker B [01:59:41]:
Sam.
Speaker E [02:00:36]:
Has assigned a contract extension with the Vikings. If he does not receive a head coaching job this cycle, he will be back as a team's defensive coordinator in the NBA. Things are just rolling for the Knicks.
Speaker A [02:00:47]:
Right handed dribble, left side pass. Shamet fakes the three drives on Traore into the right corner. Brunson left open, knocks down a three.
Speaker D [02:00:55]:
Right in front of the Knicks bench.
Speaker A [02:00:56]:
Here's Zaire Williams has his his pass deflected by Shamon and stolen in the hands of Brunson. Drives right at the rookie Traore. What a move he puts on the youngster and finishes off the glass.
Speaker E [02:01:06]:
You heard it on the Knicks radio network. They lead the nets at home 70 to 44. They're halfway through the third quarter. Carl Anthony Towns has 14 points for New York. Jalen Brown has 19 points and six rebounds. And the Celtics are up on the Pacers 73 to 56 late in the second quarter. And the Hawks are up on the Grizzlies 53 to 47. Also Pistons over the Pelicans 58 to 52.
Speaker A [02:01:29]:
I've been covering this league since 1987. Can this sports writer and this sports.
Speaker B [02:01:58]:
Fan share a radio show without driving each other crazy?
Speaker A [02:02:01]:
Now, live from the Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker B [02:02:04]:
Studios, here's Fox Sports Radio's odd couple, Rob Parker and Calvin Washington.
Speaker A [02:02:11]:
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Speaker C [02:03:28]:
Do it.
Speaker A [02:03:29]:
That's right. It always pops up at the top of the screen.
Speaker C [02:03:35]:
All right, hold on. Before you get there, I want to laugh at you some more. When you said what you think you will be doing right Now, Rob Parker, 2026, the year of our Lord. If you were married, so you would be like, hey, I do the odd couple, I teach USC all this stuff and, and, and you got to do everything else. Is that what you would be doing, Rob?
Speaker A [02:03:54]:
No.
Speaker C [02:03:54]:
You ain't cooking, cleaning, wiping diapers or nothing? No.
Speaker A [02:03:58]:
When I actually, when I was married, my mother said to me, she said, wow, your wife is very fortunate. She said, you have three jobs. Three jobs. You work three jobs. And I cooked a couple days a week and I washed clothes. I did. My mom was like, when I was married, your father worked. We had three kids and he did nothing, you know, other, other than work, like go out, work for the family. She just said, she said to me, like, really? And we don't have, we didn't have any kids. So my mom was like, really? You don't have any kids, so your wife's not doing anything extra? You know what I mean? Watching kids doing that, right? And she said, you have three jobs and you're washing clothes and you're cooking a couple nights a week.
Speaker C [02:04:52]:
Rob, he couldn't last a week with us, could he?
Speaker A [02:04:54]:
And, and I'm the one divorced. Alex. Does that make sense?
Speaker C [02:04:58]:
Zero sense. Rob G. Rob G. He wouldn't last month.
Speaker A [02:05:02]:
Can you hear us, Monty?
Speaker C [02:05:03]:
In the first 48, you wouldn't last.
Speaker A [02:05:05]:
Monty. Is that crazy? My mom actually said that. She said like a husband that has three jobs and also helps with the chores and cook. That's not a nice, that's not a great guy.
Speaker C [02:05:19]:
That's cute.
Speaker E [02:05:20]:
That is a great guy. That is. I mean, that's not everybody.
Speaker C [02:05:23]:
No, that's cute. 20, 20. The 2000 and 20s are the Lord, our Lord and Savior. Let me tell you what you gotta do. Rob G. I'll hit Alex. Hit me with the dings. Cause I know Rob G. Feels me. Boy, I cook, I clean, I read books, I take girls to school. I, I will. I obviously work multiple jobs. What else I do? I can be a chauffeur. Boy, I, I will do any. It doesn't matter, man. I clean all that stuff. It's. No, I'm not showing up. That's the crazy part. No, I'm gonna tell you why I'm not showing off. Because Rob Parker is right. Watch this. My mother, my mother in law, when they were, they go, oh my gosh, look at all this stuff. I can't believe you do. Wow. And I think it's because, because they.
Speaker A [02:06:09]:
They had husbands that didn't do anything. Yes, I'm serious.
Speaker C [02:06:13]:
So when they see me, me going and going, going. I got this job, I'm doing a morning show. I get here, I still pick the girl, take the girls there, put them over there. You know, my wife was in law school for all these years, so I had to go here, got to do that. They would be like, oh my gosh, you do so much. But I always tell them, I don't think I'm that exceptional. I think I'm trying my best. I'm doing good. Rob G. I know we talk every single day. And I thought we have the same. Where you at? What you doing? I know, I know. And I. All my buddies are the same for the most part. So I just think this generation is a lot of pitching in. And Matzi, you can relate because women are doing more than ever. They're working multiple jobs, they're getting degrees, they're getting master's degrees, ph, they're starting businesses. So it's like the job is to win the day, right?
Speaker A [02:06:53]:
However that happens, I'm convinced that Elijah doesn't do anything at home. Me, too. Elijah, you show you Rob. Now.
Speaker C [02:07:02]:
That's a great point, Roger.
Speaker A [02:07:03]:
Elijah. Elijah, how much do you do at. At home? Seriously? Do you cook? Do you clean? What else do you do at the house? We got his mic.
Speaker C [02:07:15]:
What Elijah say? Let's see.
Speaker E [02:07:16]:
He's trying to talk.
Speaker A [02:07:18]:
He kicked the plug out. Oh, you good now? You good?
Speaker C [02:07:20]:
N. She kicked the plug out. Don't be telling people what you doing. Don't put in our business.
Speaker A [02:07:24]:
All right. Come over here, Elijah.
Speaker B [02:07:25]:
We. Yeah.
Speaker C [02:07:26]:
I give you all. Don't. I give you all these trips. We go all over the world.
Speaker A [02:07:29]:
They go. They go on great trips. I know. So they. They're always traveling.
Speaker B [02:07:32]:
Problem.
Speaker C [02:07:32]:
When I wake up in the morning.
Speaker A [02:07:33]:
The first thing I have to do is cook for my kiddo. Wow.
Speaker E [02:07:37]:
Nice.
Speaker A [02:07:37]:
She's got to take off to work, and then I've got to handle everything, take care of him for as long.
Speaker C [02:07:42]:
As I can before he's got to.
Speaker A [02:07:43]:
Get sent off to school and pretty much.
Speaker C [02:07:46]:
Are you talking about your real kid or Rob?
Speaker A [02:07:50]:
There is an HRU included in there as well. Wow. There's plenty of hrus I've done while taking care of myself. I hear her in the background. I'm like, elijah, he can wait. Let the. He can wait on the cereal and the milk. Just. I have some push back for you.
Speaker B [02:08:07]:
Kot.
Speaker A [02:08:07]:
Yes, Monsie? Do you cook?
Speaker E [02:08:09]:
Oh, no.
Speaker A [02:08:10]:
Do you clean?
Speaker E [02:08:11]:
Oh, oh, barely.
Speaker A [02:08:12]:
Kot, you said women are doing more, they're doing less. What are you talking about? They don't cook. Women don't cook. What are you talking about?
Speaker C [02:08:19]:
Women don't cook? Sorry, you don't cook or clean. I.
Speaker E [02:08:22]:
We have a lady that comes.
Speaker A [02:08:23]:
Oh, try me again.
Speaker C [02:08:25]:
K. Dot.
Speaker E [02:08:26]:
I am working a lot. I am working a lot.
Speaker D [02:08:28]:
Talent.
Speaker C [02:08:29]:
These days.
Speaker E [02:08:29]:
I don't work. Kids, relax. I chose this life for a reason. For a reason.
Speaker C [02:08:36]:
So, no, monsieur, you're fine.
Speaker A [02:08:37]:
I'm just saying, to K. Dot's point, most women.
Speaker C [02:08:39]:
K. Dot don't cook.
Speaker A [02:08:40]:
The matriarch effed themselves. We had it all in the 50s.
Speaker B [02:08:44]:
We messed it up.
Speaker E [02:08:45]:
My friends who are moms are doing it all. I'm not doing it all.
Speaker A [02:08:49]:
But now that you work, why do.
Speaker E [02:08:50]:
You want to do it all?
Speaker A [02:08:51]:
You see what I'm saying?
Speaker E [02:08:52]:
Yeah, right.
Speaker C [02:08:53]:
But like Rob G. Monty, I'm not mad at you, but I'm not either. My wife, I cannot take. She is insane.
Speaker A [02:09:01]:
Okay, I want to say this real quick.
Speaker C [02:09:03]:
Yeah.
Speaker A [02:09:03]:
We can move on. So when I was about, I don't know, 12 or 13. No, I was.
Speaker C [02:09:09]:
Cue the music.
Speaker A [02:09:09]:
Yeah, I was about. I was about. Maybe I had a job. So I was like 16 years old and I was supposed to cut the lawn for the family right at the house. I used to pay one of my friends to cut the lawn rather than do it myself. And the other parents in the neighborhood thought I was so gauche. And like, who are you to pay the other kids to do your chores? We had a push mower, not an electric mower. And I had a job. I could pay him $10 because I had. It wasn't like my mom was paying it. Do you think that's out of bounds for a kid to pay another kid to do his chores?
Speaker C [02:09:50]:
It's the look of it more than anything because, like, what parent wants to see their kids when it's supposed to be for.
Speaker A [02:09:56]:
When I was going to my job, I had a job. He didn't have a job.
Speaker C [02:09:59]:
Yeah, I. I get the capitalism in you, but a pair. Another parent is gonna be like, look at that. Got my kid out here slaving and he too good to be doing that.
Speaker A [02:10:07]:
Yeah, that's what it was. They thought I was, gosh, oh, this kid is h. They. They turn their nose up to me. All right, Rob G. Bad times in San Francisco. They're only going to get worse because Jimmy Butler, the Butler didn't do it. He did do it. He's hurt. He's going to be out. I'm just saying. Where are the Warriors?
Speaker D [02:10:30]:
Oh, they are up blanks creek without a paddle right now. Jimmy.
Speaker A [02:10:33]:
That was a good show.
Speaker D [02:10:34]:
Yes.
Speaker A [02:10:35]:
Yes.
Speaker D [02:10:35]:
Jimmy Butler out for the season. Torn acl. At a best case scenario, he's back at the All Star break next season. So it's not looking good for Golden State. In their first game without him. Last night, they hosted the Toronto Raptors.
Speaker A [02:10:49]:
Yell on that one. Yeah.
Speaker C [02:10:50]:
Got blowed out.
Speaker D [02:10:51]:
Ended UP losing by 18 points. They committed 18 turnovers, led to 34 points for the Raptors.
Speaker A [02:10:56]:
They had more turnovers than a bakery.
Speaker D [02:10:59]:
Never close. And we all knew, even, you know, during this stretch they played pretty well recently, that they weren't real contenders in the Western Conference. But now without Jimmy Butler, they may not even make the playoffs. Like, that's how bad the rest of their team is outside of Steph Curry. So it leads to an obvious question, guys. If you're the Golden State warriors and you got Steph Curry, even at his advanced age, still playing very, very well, he's an All Star starter for a reason. Where do you go from here?
Speaker C [02:11:31]:
Well, what I do know, Rob, both of y' all Robs, is that Steph Curry ain't going nowhere. I. I understand. Oh, well, they're struggling. Steph Curry is going to retire a Warrior. He's going to be similar to Kobe Bryant, where it might not even make sense on paper, like they're struggling or he costs too much or eventually maybe the talent isn't matching all of that. I think they're gonna go down with the ship. Steph Curry, Draymond Green, Steve Kerr. I think that unit has felt like we're all in this together, and, dang it, we're gonna give it our best, and if it don't work, it doesn't work. I don't think Draymond Green's gonna play another four or five years. And just. I think they're gonna be like, when that run is over and they look at each other, it's gonna be similar to the Last Dance, where Phil Jackson moved on, Mike retired, then he came back, obviously, Scottie Pippen moved on. And I think it's going to be a washing of the hands like that. I just. I just think. Think he means too much to that city, to that team, to that culture. And also, he strikes me as somebody who's not interested in going to Phoenix to do this, then going to Denver, then going to Miami, you know, for the next four or five years. He doesn't strike me as that guy. I think he wants to retire with one team. Retire like how Kobe Bryant, God bless the dead, did he. I. I feel like that's what he wants on his resume, that I played my heart out for this one franchise. We won a bunch. We won four. Four rings, went to six finals. And I. I just. I believe that's how this ultimately is going to end.
Speaker A [02:12:53]:
Rob, they don't owe him anything. They've paid him very handsomely, so they don't need to do anything. If he wants to stick around, I think there is something to. I always thought Tom Brady should have always only played for the Patriots. Derek Jeter only played for the Yankees. There's certain players. Yeah. You know what I mean? Not everybody. Certain players. And Steph, to me, is one of those players years. What is the point on going somewhere for one year? You really want to go to Charlotte. I'm not.
Speaker B [02:13:20]:
Or.
Speaker A [02:13:20]:
Or some other team to hook on with them with. The possibility doesn't mean you guarantee anything. Just be. You only want to wear one uniform. He's one enough. There's nothing else to prove. You're going to the. Do you know what I mean? Like there's nothing else for you. You're not going to catch Jordan. You're never going to be considered the greatest of all time. There's none of that. You won. You won four championships and you finally got the one without Kevin Durant. So people can leave you alone. So there's nothing to chase. Go out gracefully and go out as a warrior. I really believe that that's the way it should be for Steph and nothing else. And I don't feel like there should be any pressure that they should do whatever they can and all that. I don't believe in that. They've paid him a ton of money and been very good to Steph and they went out and got Jimmy Butler, you know what I mean? And they've gone out and they've tried so that he could play and be at least in a competitive circumstance. But that's enough along. It's been a long career and at some point you got to give up the ghost. So I'm not doing anything extra. And I would ask him, do you want to play your. Your entire career here? If he says yes, then we just roll, roll on and we'll make sure that that happens.
Speaker C [02:14:35]:
Yeah, I'm trying to look up his contract here. Steph's under contract with them through the. So he's through next year. 2026, 2027 year. He had one more. He had. He had extension back in August 2024. So. Yeah.
Speaker A [02:14:50]:
I. I think I thought his hair was natural. Well, go ahead.
Speaker C [02:14:52]:
No, I didn't say he had extensions. No. You got an extension. I. I just can't see him, like I said, walking around in a Minnesota Timberwolf Journey jersey. The only thing if there was a small chance is what you said him because he loves Charlotte. It's where he's born and raised. We talked about his dad have his jersey up there if he wanted to go to the home state, play for the Hornets for one year just to bring that kind of passion, love and fun fanfare, if you will, to the Hornets. Maybe. Maybe I could see. Not obviously necessarily.
Speaker A [02:15:31]:
They could also give a statue or retire his number there and Charlotte tune.
Speaker C [02:15:35]:
Next so they can have somebody else and put his.
Speaker A [02:15:36]:
Yeah.
Speaker C [02:15:37]:
Jersey in the rafters next to his dad. So I. That's the. I'm talking 5% chance I see of anything else happen other than him retiring a warrior. The 5 to 10 chance with him because how much we know how much he Loves Charlotte and that just his home area of North Carolina. I could see him maybe wanting to go out one year just to bring, like, fanfare to that franchise for you. That's the only thing I could maybe see. But I think he wants to be a Warrior. I don't think he wants this just play to be playing. I don't think Draymond wants to, and I don't think Steve Kerr, like, I think they might all ride off into the sunset together and. And just be like, yo, we had a, you know, 10 to 15 year run that was one of the best ever, and we gave it our all. We gave it our best. It'll be interesting because Joe Laker, the. You know, one of the owners, he ain't. He ain't a guy that he wants to win. He is extremely competitive. So it will be interesting to see the moves they make, whether it be before the trade deadline or.
Speaker A [02:16:32]:
That's right. Remember, they traded Clay. They got rid of them. They ditched him.
Speaker C [02:16:36]:
They did. And you could argue a little too late, but, you know, trying to be good to him and, you know, and even Draymond, a lot of people, like, oh, you could have traded him a year or two ago, but. But I think. I think, Drayvon, you. You talk about the time Steve Kerr lets him ride with a lot of stuff, get away with a lot of stuff. I think they're just locked in. I think that he's the heart of the team. Steph is obviously.
Speaker A [02:16:55]:
Yeah, let's see how much of a heart of the team he is now.
Speaker C [02:16:58]:
Well, the team ain't that good. Ain't debating that.
Speaker A [02:17:01]:
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker C [02:17:01]:
I think they'd rather fall in their sword, all three of them. That's what I see happening.
Speaker A [02:17:05]:
All right. 87799 on Fox. 877-996-63-60. Should Steph Curry request the trade out of Golden State? We'll continue that conversation next with you, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington. It is the I couple where we deliver insight, not noise right here on Fox Sports Radio. And you know what you need to do? Stick and stay.
Speaker C [02:17:30]:
Unless you're living the good life like Rob Parker and don't have to clean bottles in the US of A.
Speaker A [02:17:34]:
Don't. Sam. My buddy Mike Springer, a longtime friend of mine, went on a group text, and he swore up and down. I tried to tell him that if the Bills didn't win the game, Sean McDermott would get fired. You crazy. Sean McDermott. Oh, my God. Look at what the Bill did. We Talked about it, the path that they had, everything. No Mahomes. Burrow. No Burrow.
Speaker C [02:18:28]:
Lamar.
Speaker A [02:18:28]:
No Lamar. Right. And then the other quarterbacks who were there in the way, they were all beatable so that the Bills could, if not now, win. If not now, win. And they turned in a stinker. Nine years is enough. I know a lot of people in NFL America woke up and they were shocked. I was not shocked. I called for this guy's job last January when they lost last year. And note the bill. Nine years, it ain't enough. You gotta get it done. You can't. And I'm gonna tell you when I knew if they didn't win that game, when it was all over at the end of the half.
Speaker C [02:19:11]:
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A [02:19:11]:
When they're good, they have no timeouts. A little bit of time, and he fumbles at the 32 or whatever it was there with two seconds left. They gave up three points. That playing hero ball. What was the plan there? That's what a coach has to step in and say, kneel down, kneel down. Don't turn the ball over. We can't give up points. Instead, they turn the ball over, give up points, and that wind up costing them. They would have been up by three. They probably would have won the game, didn't have to go to overtime. And that whole thing. And that's when I was like, this is coaching. This is. And I know Josh Allen, terrible game. More turnovers than a bakery. That was the theme of the weekend.
Speaker C [02:19:56]:
Well, someone else had an even bigger bakery.
Speaker A [02:19:59]:
Exactly. We talked about him as well, and we'll get to that. But I'm not shocked. I'm not surprised. It's justified. And I keep saying it. We said this before, that there will be hell to pay if they didn't make the run to the Super. Had to get to the Super Bowl. And I am not surprised. Enough is enough. Nine years is a good, fair run for a coach in the National Football League without getting to where you want. They didn't even get to a Super Bowl.
Speaker C [02:20:24]:
Right.
Speaker A [02:20:24]:
The. The old boat Bills teams, they at least lost. They lost four times in the Super Bowl. This team hasn't even gotten there.
Speaker C [02:20:33]:
That's the. And, and you know what? Here's the thing. One, I agree with you on. Nine years is a long time with one of the best players in the league. Not nine years of just, hey, I've been coaching the Titans for nine. Okay? Or the Panthers, who are, you know, trying to get good. You've had Josh Allen and okay, the first little Bitty has to grow, get better. But let's just say the last five years he's been Josh Allen, right? You know, he's been the guy that we know and you haven't been in a Super bowl. And you never want to start to become in numbers and the stats and history of things that aren't good. For instance, they have 91 victories under him from 2019 to 2025 are the most ever over seven season span without a Super bowl appearance. Because most teams who win that much, that means they're onto something, they got something cooking, they're good, they at least get to a Super Bowl. And then you also do talk about this. The fact that he's owing three in a postseason in overtime, which means you can't get it done. Oh, and five in overtime, period. Josh Allen hasn't won an overtime game yet. You accidentally went over to got down, defense stopped him, we kicked the field goal, we won. Like you get one of those just by being Josh Allen or by being a good team if you're the Bills. So I look at a couple things and also, you know this from all your Perry Masons and all your law and legal court shows precedent. If John Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin are gone, what do they both have in common? Super bowl champions.
Speaker A [02:21:56]:
They, they won.
Speaker C [02:21:57]:
At least they walk in with that in their backpack to say, hey, I know it was a while ago, but at least I got one of these and I got some of this.
Speaker A [02:22:04]:
It ain't that many coaches walking around with those.
Speaker C [02:22:07]:
If they can get the smoke. Voluntary or involuntary? Involuntary. If you're. If they can be gone, Sean McDermott can surely be gone. You've never even been to one. And they shocked this morning. Were you.
Speaker A [02:22:19]:
Were you really shocked?
Speaker C [02:22:20]:
It's shocked because of the name, not so much the result. You get what I mean? Like if I just told you, you know, John Harbaugh, Tom and these guys who have these names, you go, oh, wow. But not by the result, because we talked. He probably been the biggest name coach to me on the hot seat the last two or two years or so. Always kind of in the mix. Oh, I don't know. McDermott. What if Josh Allen had another coach outside of McDermott? His name had been percolating, if you will, for, for a couple years. So it's not as shocking, the result. It's just that's such a big name in a year where we've had usually that would have been the biggest name. Little Detroit legend Fred Hammond on a worship Wednesday. DJ Ali Alex, thank you so much. It's the eye cup of Rob Parker. Kelvin Washington on a worship Wednesday. Be sure to check out the brand new YouTube channel. As always, simulcast and live right there, right now. Just go to YouTube search Odd Couple FSR. Subscribe like share, Comment away. Rob G. Maybe drop some comments on us sometime a little before we into the show. So go check it out. Subscribe, share all that good stuff. We appreciate it as always. We got Kobe Price, Lakers reporter for the California Post, coming up in a little bit. Obviously a big news Baxter Homes ESPN piece. Drop some bombshells on the bus family. Talk a little bit about that and a moment as well. So 87799 on Fox. We're just talking, is it time for the warriors to move along from Steph? If you're Steph, do you demand a trade to maybe go try to win a ring for the next couple of years, two, three years before you call it a career? What do you do? Rob and I both agree it just makes sense for him to retire there. Stay there. Just.
Speaker A [02:25:40]:
There's nothing to chase.
Speaker C [02:25:41]:
Right?
Speaker A [02:25:42]:
What are you chasing?
Speaker C [02:25:43]:
Yeah, we agree on that. 87799 on Fox. Rob, who we got?
Speaker A [02:25:47]:
I got a real quick question. So I got on a button down shirt. You see me today?
Speaker C [02:25:50]:
I see it. Yeah.
Speaker A [02:25:51]:
But I got on sweatpants with this.
Speaker C [02:25:53]:
Yeah, you probably a little different, no. Yeah, that's a little different. Well, they got really nice joggers. Like they got really. And then these are Rock Alpha Ren.
Speaker A [02:26:02]:
But they're sweatpants. That's what they are. They aren't fancy. You know what I mean? Fancy.
Speaker C [02:26:06]:
Yeah. You got to get you some nice. They call them tech pants or some. Or some joggers.
Speaker A [02:26:10]:
Yeah, these are just sweats. All right.
Speaker C [02:26:12]:
Some nice. There's some joggers. You can get away with that.
Speaker A [02:26:14]:
Is this a Rocky in South Carolina, you're on the odd couple, Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Rocky?
Speaker B [02:26:21]:
Good evening, guys. Happy worship Wednesday to you.
Speaker C [02:26:24]:
Yes, sir.
Speaker A [02:26:26]:
How are you, buddy?
Speaker B [02:26:28]:
I'm doing wonderful. Wonderful. Enjoying your show as I always do in the evening. Look here, as far as Steph goes and in my lifetime, which is quite a few decades, there have been few players that have cemented their legacy with one team and even during their time playing ball change the game in their own way. And I think Steph is one of them. He, when he came in, he changed the game and he submitted his legacy as a Golden State Warrior. He needs to stay put, finish the job in his. Finish the job where he started and Cement that legacy. And then when he's done, he's done.
Speaker A [02:27:15]:
Rocky, I'm with you. Don't you think, like with Jeter, the Yankees and certain guys. Yeah. Only a handful of. Not everybody. Yeah. Like, you should only wear one uniform.
Speaker B [02:27:25]:
You know, there's something to be said about that. Rob and Kelvin, it's just you're staying put. And even Michael, I mean, I know Michael went to the Wizards, but he was a Bull and Bird was a Celtic and Kobe was a Laker.
Speaker A [02:27:40]:
Right.
Speaker B [02:27:40]:
And. And Bill Russell was a Celtic and go all the way back there to teams that stay put and they have legacies for a reason, and they change the game in their own way. And Steph is one of them.
Speaker A [02:27:57]:
100.
Speaker B [02:27:59]:
He needs to stay his tail put right there in San Francisco.
Speaker A [02:28:02]:
No doubt. Thank you, Rocky. Yeah, appreciate it. Thanks for the support, too. On the show, Jack, in Vermont, you're on the Odd Couple, Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Jack?
Speaker B [02:28:15]:
Gentlemen, how are we doing this evening? I wanted to just share my thoughts on Steph, because, Rob, this is one of the rare times I agree with you. I feel like I'm 14 and you're yelling at, saying, Tom Brady's falling off a cliff. And I'm saying, hell, no, man. You're absolutely wrong. But listen, I agree with you. Steph Curry is a Golden State Warrior. He decides that he is not. But if you're not Mike Dunleavy and the governor's over in Golden State State, are you not sitting down with Steph after the JB news and saying, listen, your life after basketball is going to consist of a lot of what we have going on here? Because I don't see Steph going into ownership like LeBron. He's too much of a personality Now. There have been too many garbage trades around sports recently. And we can single out the Luka and AD stuff, but I'd like to talk about Rafael Des and Jordan Hicks some other time. The warriors should look at Steph and say, listen, in the off season, when they can negotiate with all these other teams, let's try to work out a trade package that would bring back a return so that not only are you set up for the remainder of your career, but the Golden State warriors post, your playing career will continue to be a relevant franchise. And that's the conversation I want the Golden State warriors to have and for you guys to add on to.
Speaker A [02:29:32]:
I hear you. And you know that it didn't happen in Boston. You know that they just held on to everybody. Right. And then they went into a 20 year drought of winning. But I think Steph is different. And in that case with the Celtics, to me, you can't hold on to all three of those. You know, all the players. They held on to Robert Parish, they held on to Kevin McHale, they held on to Larry Bird. Do you know what I mean? Steph, Stephen, you could hold on to one guy, but you can't hold on to everybody.
Speaker C [02:30:04]:
Yeah, but I. I do think it's going to be Curve, Draymond, Steph. I think they're even willing to retire early, meaning there's still some talent left in the bodies to just say, you know, we. We gave it a run, we're gonna fall out as a soldiers as unit. We're done. I think that they're already done.
Speaker A [02:30:20]:
I mean, they're not winning another title. I mean, come on.
Speaker C [02:30:21]:
Well, this year you sold yourself on. I'm just saying, you got a chance.
Speaker A [02:30:26]:
You know, you saw them last year with Jimmy Butler.
Speaker C [02:30:28]:
They. And they went on a crazy, you know, street. Listen, I'm with you. I'm saying they're convincing themselves.
Speaker A [02:30:34]:
Right? But I'm just saying, do you think they're going to win another title with. With Draymond and Steph and Jimmy Butler.
Speaker C [02:30:40]:
And this weird pairing everybody keeps trying to do with LeBron there. How does that help? Everybody keeps saying, and then, you know, LeBron, like, what? How, what? Yeah, six years ago. Thank you. That would have been incredible. That how the old. Gonna get older. How is that going to help?
Speaker A [02:30:53]:
Annoying Mexico.
Speaker C [02:30:54]:
Yeah, I don't get that either. Kobe Price on the way. Laker reporter for the California Post. Talk to him in a moment. Monty Belanos right now. Monty.
Speaker E [02:31:01]:
Fellas. All right, let me. Let me start in the NFL, where defensive coordinator Brian Flores has signed a contract extension with the Vikings. If he does not receive a head coaching job this cycle, he will be back as the team's defensive coordinator. The 49ers today announced that white receiver Brandon Ayuk has played his last net for the team and that he won't be back in 2026. GM John lynch also added that the team is looking into everything, as rumors circulate that the team's injury woes could be tied to an electrical substation located next to their practice facility and stadium.
Speaker C [02:31:33]:
I read about that.
Speaker E [02:31:34]:
So crazy.
Speaker C [02:31:35]:
A real thing. Yeah.
Speaker E [02:31:36]:
I mean, there's got. I. I feel like there has to be some truth to it. Like maybe not all of it. Like, you can't put it all on that, but I feel like there's Got to be some truth behind it. Texas GM Nick Casario set up.
Speaker A [02:31:49]:
You know what I'm saying? I get it.
Speaker E [02:31:51]:
Texas GM Nick Casario said a freak foot injury suffered from football is. Suffered away from football is what costs running back Joe Mixon his entire 2025 season. And the team isn't even sure if Mixon will be ready for 2026 at the Australian Open. On the men's side, 29 seed Francis T. Won his second round match. On the women's side, six seed Just Pegula and nine seed Madison Keys won their second round matches in straight sets. In the NBA. It's late in the fourth quarter and the Cavaliers are up on the Hornets 88 to 77. Donovan Mitchell 23 points. Still early in the fourth quarter between the Pacers and the Celtics, Boston is up 99 to 82. Jalen Brown 26 points. The Knicks are just crushing the Nets. They heard you guys. 104 to 15 is the score with about six minutes to go in the game. So, yeah, the Nets have not scored any points in the fourth quarter. 00 and Knicks are up 100. 456. Early in the third quarter, the Hawks are up on the Grizzlies 70 to 66. And halfway through the third quarter, the Pistons are leading the Pelicans 78. 70. When it comes to men's college hoops. Halfway through the first half, number one Arizona up on Cincinnati 15. Nine also have halfway through the first half, number seven, Nebraska leading Washington 22 17. When it comes to the NHL, the Flyers are up on the mammoth 70 halfway through the first period. And with five minutes to go in the third period, the Red Wings and the Maple Leaves are tied at one a piece. Back to you guys.
Speaker C [02:33:15]:
Monty. Thank you. Have a great night.
Speaker A [02:33:17]:
Sorry about that. Monty.
Speaker E [02:33:18]:
You're good. No, you're fine.
Speaker C [02:33:21]:
You didn't say anything crazy.
Speaker A [02:33:22]:
No, no, that's all. It would never be anything crazy. I'm.
Speaker C [02:33:24]:
I'm a. I sit next to you every day.
Speaker A [02:33:26]:
Hey, I'm just easy going, you know? After this, I'm gonna head to church. Go.
Speaker C [02:33:32]:
I don't know. First of all, you need to settle. You're coming. As a matter of fact, Rob G. That's gonna be our next bet. Wings. It's gonna be. You gonna come get these angel wings?
Speaker A [02:33:42]:
No.
Speaker B [02:33:43]:
Church.
Speaker C [02:33:44]:
That's what's gonna.
Speaker A [02:33:46]:
I'll come to church with the. I just don't want to scare your daughters, that's all.
Speaker C [02:33:49]:
You know, my daughter's a gangsters, okay? Especially Jam and Carrie. Embarrassed yes, they might make fun of me.
Speaker A [02:33:54]:
They might say, no, they're gonna make fun of me. You know what? I could actually see your daughters hitting me, saying, stop yelling at my father. Like, that could be the conversation.
Speaker C [02:34:07]:
That would be Kennedy. All right, all right, let's get to it. We got Kobe Price yelling at my daddy. No, it wouldn't be that. It'll be a little more gangster.
Speaker B [02:34:15]:
All right.
Speaker C [02:34:16]:
Lakers reported for the California Post. Kobe underscore Price. Price on X. Kobe. Let's get to it. Backstory.
Speaker A [02:34:24]:
Peace.
Speaker C [02:34:24]:
And obviously, there's a. There's a lot of smoke coming from there. Just your initial takeaway in that 10,000 word read.
Speaker B [02:34:35]:
10,000 words? Yeah. No, I mean, the obvious thing is, you know, the connecting. You know, we all know about the bus family drama, right? And backslider, the great story at detailing. So some things that, you know, or unearthing some things and details that weren't previously known in terms of how the money was distributed or, you know, some of the dialogue between family members beforehand. There's a very, you know, if you haven't heard this story, there's a very pretty. Pretty strong quote in there coming from Genie or that distributed to Genie Bus. However, obviously, one of the big things coming from that story was Jeannie buster's feelings toward LeBron James or feelings attributed to her toward LeBron James. That was one of the biggest things in terms of, you know, referring to Baxter's story. The, you know, her feelings about his ego and her feelings about, you know, his lack of accountability, about the Russell Westbrook trade or, you know, clutch and their influence on the Lakers. Just the overall. Those were some of the biggest things that stood out about the story that Baxter had out that he, you know, he published or ESPN published this morning.
Speaker A [02:35:45]:
Well, and then she goes and. And puts out a statement with the athletic, which. Not espn, Right. But the athletic, Correct.
Speaker B [02:35:54]:
Yeah.
Speaker A [02:35:54]:
Yeah. What did you make of that? Is that Rich Paul call up and yell at her or LeBron yell at. Or something? What was that?
Speaker B [02:36:03]:
I know. I mean, it's ironic because it was in the story. And again, don't want to, you know, take too much away. I would definitely encourage those who haven't to re Baxter story. But within the storage, there was a quote that, you know, referred to Jeannie as, you know, being brilliant with pr. To me, that was pr. That was damage control in terms of me obviously, did not get in from the story, but trying to assure public perception. But also LeBron clutch that, you know, LeBron is appreciated and it's Unfair. I think the quote, you know, to Sam Amick of the Athletic was, you know, he is appreciator. His contributions to the Lakers along those lines have been appreciated. But to me, I mean, some of the things that were, that were reported on were said like in credit to Baxter for nailing these things down and getting, you know, be, you know, getting them in a story. But not surprising to hear, you know, the frustration because, you know, look, there's also been frustration on the bronze side or clutches side, you know, toward the Lakers about, you know, over the past. Fewer. Over the past several years, which exists in many different partnerships. Right. Or business partnerships. There have been frustrations on both sides. I think what that story did was just unearth a little bit more Dean, these frustrations as opposed to the opposite. We've heard a lot about LeBron's frustrations or clutches frustrations, you know, either on the record or, you know, in private conversations. But this is unearthing or further revealing your frustrations from Jeannie's side on how things have gone over the last several years.
Speaker A [02:37:36]:
Kobe let.
Speaker C [02:37:37]:
Let.
Speaker A [02:37:37]:
Should LeBron retire after this year? I mean, it's obvious they're having an all star game in Los Angeles and LeBron's not being invited. The fans didn't vote for him. Owners don't want him. Luca gained 1.5 million in votes. LeBron lost 1.5 million in votes from fans. What I mean, he has a patch that only he's wearing that they started in the mid mid season, not the beginning of the year. Nothing feels good to me. And if you were to try a, you know, farewell talk tour next year, I don't think it would go well. I think that they. People have had enough tough, it feels like, to me.
Speaker B [02:38:19]:
Yeah, I mean, it does feel like, you know, there is a. There is a certain, you know, certain amount of NBA fans or whoever around the league who, you know, would not cry if LeBron retired. But I think LeBron, you know, he's shown over the last month or so or month plus that he's still playing. He can still play basketball at a high level and he can still be part of a team that, you know, makes noise in the playoffs.
Speaker A [02:38:45]:
So are the Lakers making noise really? They don't play defense.
Speaker B [02:38:50]:
Well, they don't play defense, but it's not, that's not all LeBron's fault. I mean, you. There's more, there's more than just. I mean, yeah, his. I will say he stepped on. Stepped on that end, but it's not just LeBron's fault for the lack of defense on that, on the floor. That is a, that's a roster construction issue. And that goes beyond LeBron. I mean, look up, look up and down the roster. I mean, they're, they do have guys who defend, but they also, those same guys who defend aren't always the best offensive players. So you have to go through this tug of war of, all right, let's put offensive guys out there. All right, let's put defensive guys out there. And that's sure player personnel issue, but it's also a roster construction issue, which.
Speaker A [02:39:27]:
LeBron doesn't play, though. He's a statue. And the problem is you got three of those guys. I, I just don't like the idea that the Lakers are going to make noise in the playoffs. This is what they said last year about Luka LeBron together, and they got knocked out in the first round. I mean, I just, I, I don't. And LeBron's older. And Luca, everybody raved about how Luca looks right came into the season. What is he doing? Zero. Nothing Defensively. I don't know how you could win. You got three, you got these players, and LeBron doesn't get any smoke for it.
Speaker C [02:40:01]:
Let me throw this at you, Robin. Kobe. So to Rob's point, Kobe, is there an element where the Lakers can say, oh, we don't have our quote, unquote, big three. You know, we're without Austin Reeves, so, boy, if we had Austin Reeves, the team will be different right now. Are they hanging on to that?
Speaker B [02:40:16]:
To an extent. I mean, they also know that in the Western Conference, they know that any stretch of games matter. Like, you can't. Yes, they're without Austin, but I mean, the Rockets have been with it without Fred Van Vliet for the entire season after he tore his acl. The Nuggets are currently without Nikola Jokic. They're. The spurs were without Victor Benyama for stretches. So they understand that even with, you know, Austin such a big piece and he was important part of their early season success, but they also understand that regardless of who's on the floor, they need to stack wins and they need to stay competitive in the West. And so the playoffs, I mean, I'm not saying the players, I'm not saying the Lakers are going to make big noise in the playoffs, but I think individually, LeBron showed that he can still play and contribute, I feel, at a still high level, not just for his age, but, you know, just generally compared to other NBA players. But the Lakers know that they need to. They need to stay afloat while Austin's out. Because, I mean, even with LeBron playing the way he has and Lucas having the season he has. I mean, there were periods where Austin was the most impactful player on the floor for the Lakers. And to me, he's been easily their second. You know, he's obviously missed a significant amount of time now, but at one point was the second best player on the team that had, I think a 15 and 4 starts the season.
Speaker C [02:41:37]:
Yep. Hey, Kobe, man. We appreciate your time, brother. Thank you so much.
Speaker B [02:41:41]:
Oh, thanks for having me.
Speaker A [02:41:42]:
Always. Thank you, buddy.
Speaker C [02:41:44]:
No, make sure you give him a follow. Kobe underscore price as K H O B. I underscore price. Go ahead and give him a follow on X.
Speaker A [02:41:52]:
That's what like a kindergarten would spell Kobe, don't you think?
Speaker C [02:41:55]:
Yeah, yeah. They might put a C. They might put a C in there too. They don't quite get the K's. Yeah.
Speaker A [02:42:02]:
Rob, how do you spell baloney? Be my baloney. Here we go. First name.
Speaker C [02:42:07]:
It's what? It's. What is it?
Speaker A [02:42:08]:
Where is it? I need to solve. No, no, I need you to just spell baloney. B O L O, G N A.
Speaker B [02:42:14]:
Okay.
Speaker C [02:42:14]:
Is that right at you. New year.
Speaker A [02:42:16]:
New Year.
Speaker C [02:42:17]:
Wow. So the song messed him up, Alex. That was the issue.
Speaker A [02:42:20]:
My baloney is O s E a R My baloney has a second name. It's M E Y E R Oh, I love to eat it every day and if you ask me what I'll say cause Oscar Meyer has a way with B o L o n G.
Speaker C [02:42:45]:
N A. Oh, how does the song.
Speaker A [02:42:49]:
Mess you up Up?
Speaker C [02:42:50]:
The song messages him up.
Speaker A [02:42:51]:
That's the thing that's wrong now.
Speaker C [02:42:53]:
Okay. Yeah. Hey, but I do have a question for you, Rob.
Speaker A [02:42:55]:
Yes.
Speaker C [02:42:56]:
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Speaker A [02:43:24]:
It's last call time on the odd couple. If you had a take and couldn't get in all show here's your chance.
Speaker B [02:43:30]:
Your cause important to us.
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Speaker B [02:43:35]:
Hurry up.
Speaker A [02:43:35]:
Rob and Kelvin gotta. It has been a tumultuous week for one Mr. LeBron James and It got even worse today when the. Espn.
Speaker C [02:44:03]:
Yeah, Baxter Holmes.
Speaker A [02:44:04]:
Yeah, Athletic.
Speaker D [02:44:05]:
That was espn.
Speaker A [02:44:05]:
Espn.
Speaker C [02:44:06]:
Okay, espn.
Speaker D [02:44:07]:
Great research there, bro.
Speaker A [02:44:08]:
No, no, but you told me that she, she. She put. You told me that she put out a statement.
Speaker D [02:44:11]:
She put out a statement. The Athletics since then.
Speaker C [02:44:13]:
But that's what put out this 20, 20 minute read.
Speaker D [02:44:17]:
Yes. So it started about a week ago. LeBron James, for reasons unknown to us, you know, we talked about it on the show, decided he needed a 23rd season patch that only he would have for the rest of the season. It started mid January in Sacramento, of all places. That just seemed odd. And then yesterday on Monday, it was announced that for the first time in 21 seasons, LeBron James would not be listed as an All Star Game starter in the NBA. Which is crazy that he's gone over two decades and the streak is finally broken. We find out yesterday that of course he didn't get voted in by the fans, but even his peers, his teammates, his NBA brethren, didn't even have him in their top six of Western Conference players on their back ballots for the NBA All Star Game. And it all came to a head earlier on Wednesday when ESPN's Baxter Holmes did a 10,000 word piece discussing the dynamics of the Genie Bus bus family sale of the Lakers. All anyone cared about, though, was about three paragraphs where it explained that Genie buss had grown frustrated with LeBron for a number of reasons. Number one being that she felt like. Like she didn't like the narrative that LeBron had chose them and he was like their savior for their franchise. Number two, she didn't like the fact that LeBron James had kind of absolved himself from the Russell Westbrook trade, even though he pushed for it harder than anything.
Speaker A [02:45:41]:
Don't even remember the video of them having a pow wow in his backyard.
Speaker D [02:45:44]:
And last but not least, she was very upset that he didn't seem more grateful that they did him a solid by drafting Bronnie in the second round of the draft.
Speaker A [02:45:52]:
They drafted Bronnie on potential, on his. On his playing potential. Right.
Speaker D [02:45:56]:
So it's been. It's been a rough week for the King.
Speaker A [02:45:58]:
Yes. And I got a message for the King. I'm dead serious. Retire after this season. Call it quits. Seriously, LeBron, is this on? I'm dead serious. The writing could not be more on the wall. Right? From everywhere you go. You don't want to go out there. Your players have told you you're an afterthought. The fans, the Laker fans voted because guess What? Luka got 1.5 million more votes than he did when he was in Dallas last year. And guess who got 1.5 million less votes? LeBron James. So the Laker fans are out there voting and they still didn't vote for you. The players didn't vote for you. The fans didn't vote for you. The league did this phony patch that only you have. And we were really celebrating your 23 years in the league. It should be a worldwide patch. Right. Everybody should have it on. And it should have started in October when the season started. That's when your 23rd season started. You don't want to stick around too long. You can't now next year and the All Star game is in la. What a send off. Have it one more time and it could have been in la. They were not even interested in doing that for you. No, solid. The worst thing you could do is come back next year and guess what? It be even worse than this year. Like it is rock bottom. He has stayed too long. LeBron James needs to retire. The writing is on the wall in Los Angeles. Nobody wants you at the All Star game. LeBron James? Really, Kelvin? I think that says all you need to know. Fans don't want you. No. Owners want you. The players don't want you. Like what do you need some. A building to fall over on you?
Speaker C [02:47:56]:
Yeah, I think, Rob, I think what makes it difficult with LeBron is all that it comes with. We'll talk a little bit later about on Steph Curry, some of the Steph Curry news and with the warriors and whatnot. But it's what comes with LeBron. It's not just singularly the talent. He's actually still probably a top 20. Me and Rob G were talking about this top 20 player. Top 25, depending on where you want to go when you watch him. And still like last night's game. He was incredible. And so the talent is there. What he could bring to a team is still there. No, no. Oh, dude, of course he's not. He's 41 years old. What I'm saying is so it has to be something else. And it becomes what all it brings with LeBron. Right?
Speaker A [02:48:55]:
Cruising.
Speaker B [02:49:21]:
Sam.
Speaker C [02:49:49]:
It is the odd couple. Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington on a worship Wednesday. Thank you to Kobe Price for joining us. You can check out the podcast. Rob Gio, get that up. Good conversation about him and all the drama surrounding the Lakers. So again, thank you to Kobe Price for joining us. For over 40 years, Tire Rack's been helping customers find the right tires for how. For what and where they drive ship fast and free. Backed by free road hazard protection with convenient installation options like mobile tire installation. Tirerack.com. it is the way tire buying should be. It is now time for last call.
Speaker D [02:50:23]:
This is the last call.
Speaker A [02:50:31]:
Last call. Time on the. Trent in wichita.
Speaker B [02:50:49]:
Whoa. What's up man? Here's. Here's my idea. I got an idea. We get Steph Curry to Charlotte. They signed Dale Curry. He makes them. And then LeBron and Bronnie versus Dale and Steph on a going away tour.
Speaker A [02:51:07]:
Oh my God. Oh my.
Speaker C [02:51:09]:
Sound like something that could happen to All Star Games.
Speaker A [02:51:11]:
I know, right? That would be an all star.
Speaker B [02:51:14]:
I mean, because you know it'll be based on merit.
Speaker A [02:51:18]:
I mean, dang, I don't know how I was bronnie on merit. I'm just saying.
Speaker C [02:51:23]:
That's his point. Dang.
Speaker A [02:51:24]:
All right. Hey, Trip. Thank you, buddy. We appreciate it.
Speaker C [02:51:28]:
Appreciate you, brother.
Speaker A [02:51:29]:
Kelvin, are you ready? We got a new song to debut here on the Odd Couple. Well, you know, you've been doing a lot. We got the new sponsor, Dude Wipes, right? Yeah. Oh my mon. Are you listening? I want to make sure cuz this is the new song. You know, we have nothing but hot songs here on the Icon.
Speaker C [02:51:44]:
Okay, what's what we add to our playlist now? What we got?
Speaker A [02:51:46]:
Are we ready, Alex? Let's go.
Speaker C [02:51:49]:
Let's hear it.
Speaker B [02:51:54]:
Let's do.
Speaker A [02:51:59]:
A lady.
Speaker C [02:52:15]:
Oh, Rob G. Can you make sure dude wipe stays with us? Can you make sure we didn't lose him after that?
Speaker A [02:52:26]:
All right, thoughts? Alex?
Speaker E [02:52:30]:
Dude wipes like a lady. Yeah, like it's. You're. It sounds like you're saying dude wipes like a lady.
Speaker C [02:52:37]:
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker E [02:52:38]:
No, you're not. You get what I'm saying? No, it's not. Dude wipes. Exactly. Yes. Yeah.
Speaker C [02:52:45]:
Is that derogatory? Is that derogatory saying he wipes?
Speaker A [02:52:48]:
No, no, no, no.
Speaker E [02:52:49]:
That's just how I heard it.
Speaker C [02:52:50]:
I didn't think. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker E [02:52:52]:
But it was catchy.
Speaker A [02:52:54]:
Rob G. Is sick.
Speaker D [02:52:55]:
It's factually incorrect. I would love to meet a man who wipes like a lady.
Speaker C [02:53:00]:
I'm telling you, that'd be some good wiping.
Speaker A [02:53:02]:
Because you.
Speaker D [02:53:03]:
No, because it. If you. I have all women in my house.
Speaker E [02:53:06]:
That's true.
Speaker D [02:53:06]:
The way that even though they use excess toilet paper.
Speaker E [02:53:09]:
Yes, we do.
Speaker D [02:53:10]:
They do not wipe the way that a dude would wipe.
Speaker E [02:53:13]:
Yes, we definitely don't.
Speaker D [02:53:14]:
Men are got a lot more to take out of there. So go. Just saying.
Speaker A [02:53:18]:
All right, let's Just hear one more time.
Speaker D [02:53:20]:
Let's just hear it.
Speaker A [02:53:21]:
Can we hear one more time, man?
Speaker C [02:53:22]:
I took it. Rob G. You took a. I. I was okay.
Speaker A [02:53:24]:
Come on. The music is great, Dude. Come on, Monty.
Speaker C [02:53:35]:
Alex, you need a raise.
Speaker A [02:53:39]:
Dude? W. Like a lady.
Speaker E [02:53:45]:
That's it. That's. That's what makes it.
Speaker C [02:53:47]:
Yeah.
Speaker B [02:53:47]:
All right.
Speaker E [02:53:48]:
That's what makes it.
Speaker C [02:53:49]:
Yeah.
Speaker A [02:53:50]:
Alex. Alex. Another masterpiece. Burger is king, dude. Wipes like a lady. Keep going. Everybody. Everybody knows it's wimby.
Speaker C [02:54:01]:
Everyone knows My Caleb song was better.
Speaker D [02:54:04]:
Than your Caleb song.
Speaker A [02:54:05]:
No, we're not.
Speaker D [02:54:06]:
Mine made more sense.
Speaker A [02:54:07]:
We're not producing that song. You go to Motown Records and produce that. Oh, are they in business still Motown?
Speaker C [02:54:13]:
They still are, believe it or not.
Speaker B [02:54:15]:
Okay?
Speaker C [02:54:15]:
And Barry Gordy's still alive, too. Shout out to Barry Gordy, the legend.
Speaker A [02:54:18]:
All right? Rob G. Go to Motown and Barry Gordy could take your royalty.
Speaker D [02:54:22]:
No, I'm gonna go to Alex and have him do it for me.
Speaker C [02:54:24]:
Come on. You can't go back to Detroit, Rob. I know you got a house and a business. They gonna pack you up. You can't. It's a rap. Are you kidding me right now? I don't let it. Yo, that. Yo, that was inside baseball right there.
Speaker A [02:54:41]:
I don't let anything go. You know that. I don't.
Speaker D [02:54:44]:
Somebody commented on the YouTube saying, this is why Monty was drunk during the Jason Smith show.
Speaker A [02:54:48]:
Monty, were you drunk? No. No.
Speaker E [02:54:52]:
Why would you even ask that?
Speaker A [02:54:54]:
No. I know you don't drink on the job.
Speaker E [02:54:56]:
Not on the job, but, you know, after the job.
Speaker A [02:54:58]:
I said on the job. Have fun. Fun all day.
Speaker C [02:55:02]:
You better have fun right now, Rob.
Speaker A [02:55:05]:
The Jason Smith show with Mike Harmon is coming up next. I never miss your radio show.
Speaker C [02:55:10]:
I never hear it, so I never miss it.
Speaker A [02:55:11]:
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